Notice the trend. Scott Peterson, that Hacker dude, and this b*tch all got themselves backed into a corner by their LIES and apparently saw no way out.
Oh what a tangled web we weave...
Posted on 12/18/2004 8:12:56 PM PST by Libloather
Kan. Woman Said to Show Off Stolen Baby
24 minutes ago
By JOHN MILBURN, Associated Press Writer
MELVERN, Kan. - A woman charged with killing an expectant mother and cutting the baby from her womb was showing the child off to people at a cafe and to her pastor hours before she was arrested, residents said Saturday.
Lisa M. Montgomery, 36, was charged Friday with kidnapping resulting in murder and was expected to appear in federal court Monday. The baby, whose mother had been eight months pregnant, was in good condition.
Hours before her arrest, Montgomery and her husband showed off a newborn girl at a restaurant, said Kathy Sage, owner of the Whistle Stop Cafe in Melvern, a small eastern Kansas town.
Many customers were surprised to hear the infant was only a day old, Sage said. She knew an Amber Alert had been issued for a baby missing from Missouri but did not realize the infant the Montgomerys carried was connected until hearing from a reporter on Friday.
"You read about this stuff," she said. "It blows you away when it's here. This stuff is supposed to be in New York City or Los Angeles."
Montgomery was arrested later in the death of Bobbie Jo Stinnett, who was found Thursday in a pool of blood inside her small white home in the northwest Missouri town of Skidmore.
Montgomery's husband, Kevin, has not been charged in the case.
Authorities said Lisa Montgomery contacted Stinnett through an online message board, and investigators zeroed in on her using computer forensics. Montgomery was seeking to buy a dog from Stinnett, who raised rat terriers.
While Montgomerys ate breakfast, another customer showed the baby off around the cafe. After eating, they took the girl to visit their pastor.
"It was a beautiful baby," Mike Wheatley said. "Absolutely beautiful."
Wheatley and his wife commented that the baby, whom the couple called Abigail, did not look like a newborn because her head was not misshapen from passing through the birth canal, a common result of childbirth that soon goes away. The only marks she had were a small scratch on her head and a slight bruise on her hand.
The pastor had not seen the couple since October, and everyone in the congregation expected her to give birth around Dec. 12.
U.S. Attorney Todd Graves said Lisa Montgomery contacted Stinnett through an online message board after seeing a Web site about the rat terriers Stinnett bred and raised. The site included a picture of Stinnett, showing she was pregnant.
Investigators searched Stinnett's computer and found the victim had been communicating through the message board with someone claiming to be a Darlene Fischer who lived north of Fairfax, Mo.
Authorities, helped by a North Carolina dog breeder who was familiar with the message board, determined the communication from Fischer actually came from Montgomery's house.
The Montgomerys were taken in for questioning Friday, and Lisa Montgomery was charged. Investigators said she confessed to the crimes.
Officials said Montgomery had not hired an attorney. Messages left by The Associated Press at the home of Kevin Montgomery's parents went unreturned Saturday.
Jeff Lanza, an FBI spokesman in Kansas City, Mo., declined to discuss motives and said the investigation was ongoing.
He would say only that Montgomery was being held in Kansas and was expected to make her first appearance in federal court Monday, though authorities did not know whether it would be in Missouri or Kansas.
The baby's father and several other family members saw the infant, named Victoria Jo, for the first time Friday night at Stormont-Vail Regional Health Center in Topeka.
The infant was in an intensive care unit. Hospital officials said she was responding normally for a baby taken from the womb one month premature.
"She's doing well," hospital spokeswoman Carol Wheeler said.
The family was not speaking to reporters, but Victoria Jo's father, Zeb Stinnett, issued a brief statement calling her "a miracle."
"I want to thank family, friends, Amber Alert and law enforcement officials for their support during this time," he said.
Montgomery is the mother of two high-school-age children. Nodaway County Sheriff Ben Espey said Saturday that Montgomery had told people she was pregnant with twins, though investigators were still trying to determine if that was true.
"She told people she was pregnant and had a miscarriage and lost one of the twins," Espey said. "We're thinking she never was pregnant."
According to court documents, Montgomery traveled to Topeka, about 30 miles north of Melvern, on Thursday to go shopping. She called her husband from there, saying she had gone into labor and given birth.
Kevin Montgomery and the couple's two children met Lisa and the newborn in the parking lot of a fast-food restaurant in Topeka and drove home, according to an affidavit.
The arrest stunned many townspeople who apparently had believed for months that Lisa Montgomery was pregnant.
How "could you not know that your wife's not pregnant?" said Gary Deskins, owner of a convenience store in Melvern, a community of about 420 residents. "There's something missing."
I still can't figure out the husband. He must be mentally-ill too.
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1State of Missouri )) ss.County of Jackson )
A F F I D A V I TI, Special Agent (SA) Craig M. Arnold, Federal Bureau ofInvestigation, being duly sworn, state the following is true andcorrect to the best of my knowledge and belief based oninformation provided to me by SA Kurt Lipanovich of the FederalBureau of Investigation:1. SA Lipanovich is presently assigned to the St. Joseph,Missouri, Resident Agency. He has been an FBI Special Agent forapproximately 15 years. SA Lipanovich is responsible for investigating violations of federal criminal law in the 17northwest counties of Missouri, which includes the town ofSkidmore in Nodaway County.2. This affidavit is made in support of a complaint for Lisa Montgomery for violation of Title 18, United States Code,Section, 1201, kidnaping.3. On December 16, 2004, Special Agent Mickey L. Roberts,FBI, provided SA Lipanovich with the following information:a. SA Roberts had been contacted by FBI Headquartersin Washington D.C. in connection with the murder of a pregnantwoman in Skidmore, Missouri, earlier that same day, in which thewoman's fetus had been removed.
"fishing for kids"
I noticed that too .. was wondering if anyone else caught it!
According to her ex-husband, she had her tubes tied 15 years ago and yet she was all over the net on different message boards (under different names) claiming she was pg and about to give birth any day. And that was happening way back in April. Just type "kelimont" into a google search! That was one of her alias. She's not nuts, just evil. There is no cure for evil. jmo
From: Kelimont (Original Message) Sent: 4/18/2003 9:07 PM
"Hi, my name is Lisa and I live on an old farm in eastern Kansas. Our house is a little over 100 years old and was originally built without electric or running water. It has 6 bedrooms and 1 itty bitty bathroom.
I have 4 children, ages 12, 13, 14, and 16, and my husband has 3 boys, ages 11, 13, and 18. We are also expecting new baby any day.
Lisa"
that one is from april 2003
Notice the trend. Scott Peterson, that Hacker dude, and this b*tch all got themselves backed into a corner by their LIES and apparently saw no way out.
Oh what a tangled web we weave...
Here she wants to know HOW TO BUTCHER A PIG! good gawd!
From: Kelimont Sent: 4/25/2003 9:57 AM
"Thanks so much for the warm welcome! Yes, our house is interesting and fun. I get lots of suggestions for updating it, but I kind of like it the way it is, except for the bathroom. We know the previous owner who is now in his mid 80's and he moved in here when he was 10, his parents being the second owners. They had a dairy farm here back in the 1930's and up. We started out a couple of years ago, second marriage for both of us, with the idea of learning how to do things ourselves instead of buying everything, and teaching our children to do for themselves. We have had a lot to learn! But it has been fun and instructional and it is getting easier. We are also making a little money at it. Not much, but enough to keep us on this track. Our next project is to butcher our own pig. Any suggestions would be helpful. As in what am I to do with the meat when they bring it in?"
If there is a lesson here, it's that there are dangerous predators in this world, and it's a good idea to ALWAYS be armed.
I am forever amazed by the terrible human condition of some people's mind.
It's just unspeakably horrible how a supposedly rational, sane human being can be thinking about doing such a horrible thing. How can she justify this in her mind. Was it drug/alcohol induced irrational behavior or is it something that lies beneath the surface in all of us just waiting for the right/wrong conditions to bring it to life...scarey!
Maybe it's an underdeveloped cerbral cortex.
"The cerebral cortex is the extensive outer layer of gray matter of the cerebral hemispheres, and is involved in higher brain functions, including sensation, voluntary muscle movement, thought, reasoning, and memory." Wikipedia
No matter what the cause...put her outta her misery.
Sorry to go on...just thinking out loud.
Life isn't hard, just get a job and don't kill anybody. richandfamous
Looks like she has been playing the old "I'm pregnant and you can't leave me" game for quite a while. jmo
Easy for YOU to say! You're "richandfamous".. hehe ..
Sorry, couldn't resist .. slinking back to my corner now!
She has nothing that can't be cured by 12 jurors, a tall tree, and some rope.
LOL...well, I'm just famous but working on the rich part still..he he
Here's some more of this evil womans posts:
postings from a good christian;
I taught my kids at home for a year
Posted by Lisa Montgomery on 12/9/2004, 7:40 am, in reply to "Even those
who do
not home-educate their children should get a chuckle out of these:"
12.64.24.112
When we were living in southern New Mexico. My oldest daughter, Desiree,
had
trouble with spelling words. The teachers-instead of encouraging
her-would count
everything misspelled wrong. She was feeling like a failure even though
she knew
the answers.
I talked to them till I was blue in the face before I made the big
decision to
pull them all out of that school system. It was a hard year, but we made
the most
of it, having lots of fun. Reading poetry at the park while having a
picnic lunch
while the other kids were cooped up inside. Taking field trips-my kids
learned
lots of neat science facts.
As for socialization-I had 4 kids a year apart, they learned
co-operation,
manners, and are closer than they were before.
As they are all in high school now, and we had plans when they all
graduate, our
next ones will be homeschooled the first couple of years.
Lisa
Here is one for you Danell:
Is glass liquid or a solid? My kids love debating this one!
"Posted by Lisa Montgomery on 12/10/2004, 7:59 am,
in reply to "Here is an example of how much difference the angle
of the picture can make in the looks of a dog"
Right now it is worse-I can not get down on the floor to take better
pictures due
to being pregnant and getting back up is a story in itself. Angel does
not like
heights, and I didn't think now was the time to introduce her for the
sake of a
few pictures-lol. But I tried!
Lisa I used to have one the same way, every picture made her look a type
b, but
measurements say A. hmmm "
Then this rather unusual post. Not sure how to parse it. She has the
same attorney as her current husband's ex-wife? That sounds kinda
stupid.
From: kelimont@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
of use: accepted & agree
Date: 06 Oct 2004
Time: 14:18:45
Remote Name: 12.64.85.76
Comments
The same attorney representing me in child support also represents my
hubby's
ex-wife. Anytime he goes to court for increase (every year it seems)
they have the
order filed and garnished within two weeks. Same attorney has only
managed to get
my ex into court once, and then forgot to file order for several months.
How can I
get a different attorney (I have contacted Dyntek and they say she does
not
"represent" me).
Shocking list of savagery by women in the U.S.
It's the kind of butchery you can't believe happens at all, but unborn babies have been ripped from the womb at least six other times in this country.
In all of the cases, the assailant was a woman, often consumed by a desire to have a child of her own. Most of the infants survived.
Effie Goodson of Oklahoma fatally shot acquaintance Carolyn Simpson, 21, and cut out her 6-month-old fetus last year - after convincing her husband she was with child. The baby died and Goodson was caught.
In 2000, Michelle Bica told her husband she was pregnant, then gunned down Ohio neighbor Theresa Andrews and fled with the nearly full-term fetus. Bica committed suicide as police closed in.
California teen Kathaleena Draper reneged on her promise to let her aunt, Erin Kuhn, adopt her baby, so Kuhn suffocated her and cut out the fetus with a kitchen knife in 2000. The child died.
Felicia Scott was so obsessed with having a baby that she shot to death her nine-months-pregnant pal Carethia Curry in Alabama in 1996. The baby survived the attack.
In 1995, a Chicago couple having trouble conceiving murdered expectant mom Deborah Evans, killed two of her children and fled with a full-term infant. The baby survived, but the killers, Jacqueline Williams and Fedell Caffey, went to Death Row.
An unstable New Mexico woman, Darci Pierce, used a car key to slice open pregnant Cindy Ray, who was abducted outside a prenatal clinic in 1987. Ray was strangled but her baby boy lived.
Oh my gawd! speechless!
I guess the moral of the story is NEVER let someone you don't know into your house if you are home alone.
Yeh .............
As bizzare as this case is it has happened before twice that I know of . This is third case I have seen or read about . In the late 80's One USAF spouse stalked another AF spouse while pretending to be pregnant. Both of their husbands were active duty at Kirtland AFB in New Mexico. The killer/womb raider even went to the OBGyn clinic and would sit and look for her victim. The staff there thought she was with a friend or family member as she would leave when someone else did.
On the day she'd told all she was due to download the kid she kidnapped the victim at gunpoint. Took her up to Tijeras Canyon east of Albuquerque and after knocking the lady out took the baby from her using a volkswagon key then went down to the city and told some salesman at the ford dealer at lomas and wyoming drives that she'd just had a baby. They called the EMT's and when the doctors wanted to examine the lady she refused.....the doctors sent up the flare and law enforcement was already searching for the missing lady off the base.
My wife was in USAF OSI unit that investigated the crime.....when they got the murderer to talk she told em where the victim was. She had crawled up a dry river bed when she had came to trying to reach help. She bled to death before she made it.........
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