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Two county deputies shot, along with suspect (Two ARIZONA COPS shot by ILLEGAL ALIEN!!!)
East Valley Tribune ^ | 12/17/2004 | Kim Smith and Kristina Davis

Posted on 12/18/2004 6:45:29 PM PST by nanak

Two Maricopa County sheriff's deputies were shot Thursday during the serving of a search warrant in east Mesa. A suspect was shot by a third deputy.

Deputy Sean Pearce, who is the son of Rep. Russell Pearce, R-Mesa, was shot in the abdomen. He was flown to Maricopa Medical Center in Phoenix, where he underwent surgery to remove part of his large intestine. Deputy Lew Argetsinger was shot in the hand and taken by ambulance to the medical center. Both were stable.

The suspect, Jorge Luis Guerra Vargas, 22, was flown to Banner Good Samaritan Medical Center in Phoenix with nonlife-threatening facial injuries.

According to authorities, detectives with the Pinal County Sheriff's Office wanted to execute a search warrant at the mobile home of a homicide’s investigative lead, but asked Maricopa County SWAT team members to enter first to ensure their safety.

Lt. Dave Trombi said seven members of the team knocked on the door at 111 S. 91st Way at 6:35 a.m., announced their presence in English and Spanish, then broke through the door. They were a short distance inside when a subject opened fire.

Both deputies shot were wearing ballistic body armor, but Pearce was struck in an unprotected spot, Trombi said.

A third deputy returned fire on GuerraVargas, who was alone in the home, Trombi said.

Pinal County Sheriff's Office spokesman Mike Minter said detectives had hoped to obtain evidence pertaining to a recent homicide in Hewlitt Station, a community near Queen Valley.

A hunter called deputies Dec. 5 after he found a body with a gunshot wound to the head buried under a pile of scrap lumber, Minter said.

Investigators found fresh tire tracks on the scene, and the clue led authorities to the mobile home.

Esteban Soto, the investigative lead in the case, was found Thursday in New Mexico and is being detained for questioning there.

Deputies are still working to identify the body, which is described as a 20- to 25-year-old Hispanic male.

Pearce has been on the force for 11 years, Deputy Argetsinger for three years.

Rep. Pearce, said he was in Washington, D.C., testifying on an immigration panel when he was told his son had been shot.

"He is feisty. He will do well," he said. "I guarantee that the moment he is allowed back, he will put that uniform on and be out there doing police work."

Russell Pearce also was shot in the chest and hand in the line of duty about 20 years ago while chasing gang members in Guadalupe.

Efforts to contact Argetsinger's family were unsuccessful.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: aliens; immigration; leo; pearce
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To: Itzlzha
And perhaps I should spell-check befor posting...

Or prior to it.

281 posted on 12/19/2004 2:21:23 PM PST by Fatalis
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To: Itzlzha

Where in my posts---that one or any--do you get that I am for illegal immigration, nannies, gardners and the like?

It is completely made up on your part and you might as well admit it.


282 posted on 12/19/2004 2:23:04 PM PST by cyncooper
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To: Fatalis

Um, how to put this so you'll understand...

No, it is not.

~rolling my eyes over obtuse posters who wish to insert meaning that is not there but keep insisting it is against all evidence anyway~


283 posted on 12/19/2004 2:24:39 PM PST by cyncooper
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To: nanak

Then I suggest you inform yourself. We would all be grateful.


284 posted on 12/19/2004 2:25:15 PM PST by cyncooper
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To: cyncooper
Pardon me, but is that your own petard? LOL

It's wrong for people to put words into your mouth, and it's also wrong for you to put words into the mouths of others.

285 posted on 12/19/2004 2:27:07 PM PST by Fatalis
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To: monkeywrench; Dane; staytrue; COEXERJ145; Once-Ler; cyncooper
Sorry, but you were so logical and reasonable that I jumped to a mistaken conclusion. ;)

"The Stepfords of the party."

Are they really? I think cyncooper might honestly see these concerns as attacks on the President and is thus to be forgiven, but as the rest, by the very nature of dishonesty of their posts, they seem to instead be stealth trolls from DU, trying to sow discord and disinformation on the topic.

Are folks like Dane, staytrue, COEXERJ145, and Once-Ler really reliable and reasonable conservatives on topics other than illegal immigration?

I have not spent the time investigating their posts on other topics, but it seems unlikely that they are really conservatives.
286 posted on 12/19/2004 2:30:01 PM PST by Max Combined (Clinton is "the notorious Oval Office onanist")
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To: cyncooper
"we are informed in the snootiest of tones"

You weighed in on this tread in the snootiest of tones, bragging about your brain and calling other posters stupid, while in the process revealing your own only too apparent limitations.
287 posted on 12/19/2004 2:32:48 PM PST by Max Combined (Clinton is "the notorious Oval Office onanist")
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To: cyncooper
Then I suggest you inform yourself. We would all be grateful

Wow, what a world!!!

Now, even the dunces preach others the necessity of furbished cerebrums.

288 posted on 12/19/2004 2:33:12 PM PST by nanak (Tom Tancredo 2008:Last Hope to Save America)
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To: txdoda; nanak; Max Combined
Notice Dane wasn't too *outraged* when a cop was killed by a fellow named Johnson...

Dane didn't post to the thread either

And I also didn't go hyperbolic as nanak did, with the phrase (Two ARIZONA COPS shot by illegal alien!!!) in a title.

Whatever txdoda, your ruse has been shown. You all, IMO, hide behind the illegal immigrant strawman to disparage Mexicans, it's quite obvious, to many on FR, IMO, and they don't indulge your quisling replies.

Oh BTW, txdoda, why didn't you mention that I beleive that both of theses pieces of scum should be prosecuted to the fullest extent.

I can surmise why, because you like max(ala reply #251 of this thread), think Mr. Johnson is somehow more virtuous for committing the same atrocity(shooting at a cop), becuase of his name and presumed ehtnicity because of his name.

Like I said, it is obvious what your agenda is, but you all keep digging yourself a deeper hole, kinda of like your new tough talking hero hillary, who stood right behind bill clinton when he pointed his finger at me and lied.

289 posted on 12/19/2004 2:38:43 PM PST by Dane (Trial lawyers are the tapeworms to wealth creating society)
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To: nanak
Lighten up.
290 posted on 12/19/2004 2:39:08 PM PST by Fatalis
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To: cyncooper; primeval patriot
"You are way out of bounds in the rude way you are addressing me."

Squawks the Harpy who enters this thread, post #129 accusing primeval patriot of making a "stupid assumption" when primeval patriot did no such thing.
291 posted on 12/19/2004 2:40:58 PM PST by Max Combined (Clinton is "the notorious Oval Office onanist")
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To: Fatalis
Uh nice try Fatalis, but still no cigar.

Get back to me when ted kennedy wholeheartedly supports President Bush's program.

292 posted on 12/19/2004 2:41:03 PM PST by Dane (Trial lawyers are the tapeworms to wealth creating society)
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To: Max Combined
Here's a synopsis of the movie, "Order iN this wickedly funny thriller starring Nicole Kidman and Matthew Broderick as Joanna and Walter, a couple that relocates to the picture-perfect suburban community of Stepford, a place that Joanna finds a little too flawless, while Walter joins a mysterious local men's club that is concealing a sinister secret about the town's beautiful, unflinchingly supportive domestic partners."

I didn't say anything about conservative, just republican.

293 posted on 12/19/2004 2:41:54 PM PST by monkeywrench
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To: Dane
"Uh, why no vitriol for the Founding Fathers."

Off the wall misdirection tactic noted.
294 posted on 12/19/2004 2:43:32 PM PST by Max Combined (Clinton is "the notorious Oval Office onanist")
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To: Fatalis; nanak
Lighten up(nanak)

IOW, damn you nanak, STFU, you are just making those RINO Mexican lovers point.

295 posted on 12/19/2004 2:43:55 PM PST by Dane (Trial lawyers are the tapeworms to wealth creating society)
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To: Dane
Have you ever noticed the outrage at a crime committed by a parolee is often greater than if the same crime was perpetrated by a first time offender?

That's because even though the crime itself is just as outrageous, there is additional anger because of the sense that those who are supposed to be enforcing the law didn't do a good job, and allowed the parolee to run loose and commit the crime.

You see the same dynamic of compounded outrage when an illegal alien commits a crime.

296 posted on 12/19/2004 2:45:13 PM PST by Fatalis
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To: cyncooper

"You really are a flat out idiot.

A malicious stupid small minded fool."

I know you are, but what am I?


297 posted on 12/19/2004 2:45:54 PM PST by Max Combined (Clinton is "the notorious Oval Office onanist")
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To: Dane
What are you talking about?
298 posted on 12/19/2004 2:46:27 PM PST by Fatalis
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To: Itzlzha


Note that the old SW ranch families of Spanish blood are often the victims of violent crimes and felony theft by illegal aliens and are right up at the top in demanding strict enforcement and severe punishment.

I say reciprocal statutes and regs with Mexico, ME Islamic countries, Euros, Sudan, Zimbabwe, Red China, Asia.

A Yucatan Mexico Mayor was recently in Massachussetts demanding LEOs give "special rights" to illegal aliens with no driver's licenses or insurance and vehices unlawfully registered in RI.

In California law enforcement officers have been ordered by cities to ignore illegal alien drivers breaking the law and just stick to arresting honest American citizen drivers.

States are already giving illegal aliens preferential/discriminatory "in-state resident" reduced tuitions and grants and scholarships yet an honest born-in-the-USA student from an adjoining state pays top dollar out-of-state-resident tuition, in effect paying twice, once for themselves, once or twice more to subsidize illegal alien students leeching of our lifeblood and taxes.

As Social Security gets more and more financed by less and less honest hard working American citizens the illegal aliens scam onto the massive social welfare freepies given by libs and radical nutcase federal judges and Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, Food Stamp cards, and SSI even go to illegals with fake birth certificates and "bought" (NJ again!) driver's licenses and then Social Security cards and voter registration.

Eventually (and soon) folks will get fed up and start ignoring selective "unfair" laws - Pseudo-Vigilantees will increase and income taxes and sales taxes will be considered "unfair" and tax non-compliance rates (over 20% right now and growing fast) will soar and the SCOTUS nightmare - Public loses much or all respect for law and courts - Becomes a reality.





Violent felinies = lose their hands, heads, hearts.

It's so very diverse and sophisticated.

I also say any coyotes, groups, employers knowingly smuggling in or hiding/supporting illegal aliens that end up killing her must get capital punishment just like the killer.

My "cures" are not subtle or sensitive, just instantly effective and a warning to all others.







299 posted on 12/19/2004 2:51:06 PM PST by devolve (http://pro.lookingat.us/ElvisChristmas.html http://pro.lookingat.us/TheKing.html)
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To: Fatalis
(Post # 298)Fatalis to Dane:"What are you talking about?"

Mr. Dane and other dunces know one and only one thing, "Viva Illegalae Alieno, Only the Mucho Dinero and Bottomlineo Mattero."

300 posted on 12/19/2004 2:51:11 PM PST by nanak (Tom Tancredo 2008:Last Hope to Save America)
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