[cyncooper]

Where in my posts---that one or any--do you get that I am for illegal immigration, nannies, gardners and the like?

It is completely made up on your part and you might as well admit it.

[Itzlzha]

OK, cyncooper...if it is made up, would you then stipulate PUBLICLY to the following...

1) Our borders are INCREDIBLY and COMPLETELY porous, and our Gub'mint is NOT protecting them.

2) ALL ILLEGALS...from WHEREVER they may be from, should NOT get public assistance, funding, housing, emergency care, driver's licenses,access to AMERICAN schooling, social security, welfare, tax-breaks, in-state tution credits. They should be apprehended, processed, deproted, and PREVENTED from returning, so NO lottery draft or legal process...they skipped it, they lose the priviledge (Note: NOT A RIGHT) to emigrate to America!

3) ALL businesses AND private employers MUST turn in illegals working for them, as they are either a: Feloniously using a fraudulent Social Security #, or b:Working under the tabe.

4) ALL businesses and private employers MUST pay fines equal to 10 times the illegal's salary and taxable income, as well as ALL back social security and medicare costs, as well as a proportional fine for the number of ILLEGAL employees and the extent they knew about the illegality, as well as any legal costs for prosecution and deportation! Also, a second offense is Jail for minimum 5 years, and loss of business license!

5) The US Gub'mint must seal the borders from ANY illegal Infiltration...from ANY source! This means Canada, the Hawaiian docks...the Coastal docks...ALL Illegal Infiltration! (Note which border I did NOT explicity point out...hmm, guess I'm not a "racist")

Failure to agree to ANY of these sensible proposals, means that my statements are correct, and you are more interested in cheap labor than controlling ANY borders (and I would LOVE so see the song and dance as to why these ideas are wrong/bad, ect.).

If you do publicly agree with them then do so, and I will craft a flattering apology!

Balls in your court...

[Max Combined]

"Where in my posts---that one or any--do you get that I am for illegal immigration, nannies, gardners and the like?"

In your post #145, you write, "Long before I ever heard of George W. Bush I thought if Mexico's society could shift from two strata of poor or rich to having a sound middle class that was the solution to illegal immigration."

Since your solution to the problem of illegal immigration is to wait for a fairy tale to magically occur, one may reasonably infer that you are not serious about stopping illegal immigration.

Since you carry water for the open borders crowd when you chime in to call Travis McGee a racist without any evidence, one may reasonably infer that you are also in favor of open borders.