Posted on 12/17/2004 5:27:19 PM PST by Remember_Salamis
ARI's Dr. Yaron Brock was on the O'Reilly Factor arguing that we are far too soft in Iraq and that we should "turn fallujah into dust". O'Reilly was login the argument and it was great.
You've gotta love Libertarian superhawks from the Ayn Rand Institute!
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Say what?
I disagree with him, but he did do his homework.
He means "lagging behind".
Just letting you know there is at least a 30 year old feud between Objectivists (What followers of Ayn Rand like to be called) and Libertarians. Objectivists don't like to be associated with them, while Libertarians don't really care either way.
I do think their positions on the middle east are pretty interesting. They are far more neo-con than the neo-cons would ever dream of being.
It was a great exchange....O'Reilly was just too blabbby...
I basically agree with the guest -- we have been too soft and walking on eggs around the mosques...etc..
We need to do what we need to do to win.
The Ayn Rand Institute has a number of outstanding writers. I can honestly say that I receive all their briefs and articles and they are the ONLY writers that I read religiously and never miss one of their articles. Yaron Brock is outstanding.
O'Rielly played the Hitler/Nazi card early, signaling to all that he lost the argument.
Godwin's Law (also Godwin's Rule of Nazi Analogies) is an adage in Internet culture that was originated by Mike Godwin in 1990. The law states that:
As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches one.
There is a tradition in many Usenet newsgroups that once such a comparison is made, the thread is over, and whoever mentioned the Nazis has automatically lost whatever argument was in progress. In addition, whoever points out that Godwin's Law applies to the thread is also considered to have "lost" the battle, as it is considered poor form to invoke the law explicitly. Godwin's Law thus practically guarantees the existence of an upper bound on thread length in those groups. Many people understand Godwin's Law to mean this, although (as is clear from the statement of the law above) this is not the original formulation.
Some Rand-style anti-left attacks posed from the highest levels of the Republican party would be absolutely devastating to the Democrats.
Yep. Technically they're Objectivist superhawks, and I much prefer their position to the pacifism of the LP. More here: The War for Civilization.
I agreed with him too! We are acting like wimps in Iraq so the rest of the world won't be mad at us. Well guess what,they are already mad at us.
We're damned if we do and damned if we don't.
Ayn Rand was my introduction into philosophy and Ronald Reagan was my introduction into politics.
Sorry. I tend to call the Objectivists Libertarians because they both so strongly espouse the laissez-faire outlook.
The only problem I have with the Objectivists is their hatred of God. I believe that their rabid Aetheism has held them back from being more prominent, in fact. The heir to Ayn Rand's Estate and the head of ARI, Leonard, Peikoff, is a RADICAL Abortion Rights who PUBLICLY states that abortion should be on demand and even has the audacity to have a website called http://www.abortionisprolife.com
I actually emailed this to O'Reilly:
Dear Mr. O’Reilly,
You clearly lost the debate with Dr. Yaron Brock from the Ayn Rand Institute. You invoked “Godwin’s Law”, which is the theory that as a discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches one. Whoever brings up Nazis first has lost the debate.
"You've gotta love Libertarian superhawks from the Ayn Rand Institute!"
Although the Objectivists and Ayn Rand have similar beliefs as the Libertarians. She very much disagreed with them and wanted nothing to do with them. She hated it when people compared her to them.
Comparisons are unavoidable when they both so strongly espouse laissez-faire...
Is there an Ayn Rand bump list? I'd like to join it if so.
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