Posted on 12/16/2004 11:18:44 PM PST by kattracks
WASHINGTON — The stink of Bernard Kerik's rotten bid to become homeland security czar hasn't stuck to his chief cheerleader, Rudy Giuliani, who is a top pick for the presidency among Republicans, a new poll shows.A whopping 68 percent of Republican voters want to see Giuliani run for the White House in 2008, according to a new Quinnipiac University poll — showing little fallout among the party base in the wake of Kerik's embarrassing exit.
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And it shows that if party faithful get their way, Giuliani would face off against Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton in an Empire State showdown — which Giuliani would win, 45 percent to 43 percent.
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Although she's a favorite among Dems, 50 percent of all voters don't want to see the former first lady run for the White House.
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Bob Dole, the Viagra Candidate. No thanks. He couldn't muster much energy and enthusiasm when he had a chance. And he's not any younger than he was then ;-).
LOL! You summed up his entire speech methodology in 50 words or less.
Case closed.
I don't know about Owens, but as a Colorado native, I can't say that I'd be displeased to have a president from Colorado.
That's funny.
Let me just run down the list of some of Rudy's more successful endorsements.
-Governor Mario Cuomo
-Governor Dan Lungren
-Attorney General Dennis Vacco
-Comptroller John Faso
-Senator Al D'amato
I could go on, if you'd like.
Fair enough, but I'm reading a different book.
Without Guiliani's support in the '02 elections, Jim Talent and John Sununu would not get enough support from independents to win their respective elections and the Senate would have been under Democratic control with Tom Daschle as MAJORITY leader. But hey, whatever. Scorn his support of conservative candidates. Senator Saxby Chambliss might think differently of that.
And Bill Simon would not have won the GOP primary in '02 against RINOrdan without Rudy's support; of course, in retrospect, that might not have been good move.
From a purely demographic perspective, the GOP needs to nominate someone from the West.
Considering the fact that Col. is one of the states Dems have been eying for quite some time, I think that nominating a popular governor from that state would be a good move on the part of the Republican Party.
Yup, Bill "I'm separated from my wife" Owens should go well in the South and other strong Red states. Kiss 192 firm electoral votes good-bye with his candidacy.
Aside from the Specter-Toomey primary in Pennsylvania, can you name a single race in the entire country during this past election cycle where a political endorsement made one bit of difference?
No?
I didn't think so.
Bush's support of Bunning? Can I get a cookie?
No?
I think that warranted a cookie.
I didn't think so.
Certainly not Bill Owen's support of Coors.
Here we go again. Though I am not a "Rudy in '08 fan", this is a stunning example of how the MSM has used Kerik to tear down the Giuliani candidacy, then tests to see how successful the hatchet job was before commencing Round 2. At this rate, we'll be seeing polls every day until Kerik's name goes the way of Survivor's Richard Hatch.
This was a rare vetting mistake on the part of the White House which to this point has been incredibly effective at putting forth nominees with strong credentials and high moral character. Kerik has already served the Bush Administration in Iraq, but was never subjected to this level of scrutiny. Obviously his previous position did not merit this shameful attempt by the MSM to link Kerik with everything up to including the cover-up of the alien landing at Roswell.
That being said, 2008 is light years away. The Kerik nomination will not cause Rudy any sustainable damage. By all accounts he has done sufficient groveling to the President to allay the concerns of the party faithful. Even still, for the White House to be faced with this situation as it tries to create momentum for the Bush 2nd term agenda, is counterproductive to say the least. For a White House that has been so disciplined with regard to staying on message this is a major setback at a time when it can be least afforded.
However, I don't see how that proves that Rudy Giuliani convinced one voter, living in any part of the country, to vote for his chosen candidate for public office.
No? How do you think Michael Bloomberg became mayor of NYC when he was down by double-digits with twelve days to go to election day back in 2001.
I agree. I can support Rudy at a state level ( ironically enough, not my state ) but not at a national level.
I'm in complete agreement. I love Ronald Reagan. He was in many ways the founder and architect of the modern conservative movement that GW Bush leads today.
That being said, GW Bush is more conservative than Reagan ever was. I would argue that Bush's conservatism is allowed to flourish more in a political climate and landscape that is far more favorable than the one that confronted Reagan throughout his two terms. In any event, Bush has managed to advance the conservative agenda in ways that Reagan never did and I am hopeful that his second term will be even more successful than the first.
I'd rather see Condi Rice run against Hillary.
I want Dr. Condoleeza Rice...PERIOD....
I have a bone to pick with George W for not making Condoleeza rice his VP and Dick Cheney his NSA and always close confidant. Bush just left the Republican Party without a candidate in 2008 as your talk clearly indicates. Dole ? Cheney ? get a life guys...do you love humiliating defeat? I do not believe Giuliani has the right stuff to win a national election. I like him but Condoleeza Rice is a better and more deserving candidate.
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