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Study: High-speed rail could benefit Midwest
The Chicago Tribune ^ | December 14, 2004 | Carol Ann Riha -- The Associated Press

Posted on 12/14/2004 4:25:14 PM PST by Willie Green

DES MOINES -- A high-speed rail network radiating from Chicago's Union Station through nine Midwestern states could carry 13.6 million passengers annually by 2025, according to a new report.

The Midwest Regional Rail System report released Tuesday confirms the viability of a 3,000-mile rail network stretching through Iowa, Illinois, Indiana, Michigan, Minnesota, Missouri, Nebraska, Ohio and Wisconsin, said Mark Wandro, Iowa's transportation director.

Trains would travel at speeds of up to 110 m.p.h., cutting hours off trips between major cities.

The study, led by Transportation Economics & Management Systems Inc., a Frederick, Md.-based consulting firm, said significantly reduced travel times, increased frequency of service, improved reliability and connections to other forms of transportation would be a big draw to passengers.

Wandro said the network would be phased in over a 10-year period at a cost of $7.7 billion for new equipment and track and signal improvements.

"This is an incremental and phased plan for improved passenger rail service. However, it will require significant federal funding for it to be implemented," Wandro said.

(Excerpt) Read more at chicagotribune.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Government; US: Illinois; US: Indiana; US: Iowa; US: Michigan; US: Minnesota; US: Missouri; US: Nebraska; US: Ohio; US: Wisconsin
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1 posted on 12/14/2004 4:25:15 PM PST by Willie Green
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To: Willie Green
Awesome!

Build a railroad from Chicago to Evansville. They certainly hand out enough speeding tickets along Hwy. 41 to finance it.

2 posted on 12/14/2004 4:27:38 PM PST by cicero's_son
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To: Willie Green; TaxRelief
at a cost of $7.7 billion for new equipment and track and signal improvements

Chicken feed.

(Rail ping!)

3 posted on 12/14/2004 4:28:28 PM PST by Tax-chick (Proud to be a Reprobat!)
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To: Willie Green

a good idea in theory, but who would manage it? Amtrak? If so, then it will never work - Amtrak is a disaster.


4 posted on 12/14/2004 4:29:41 PM PST by sassbox
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To: Willie Green

If it's estimated at $7.7bn, the true expectation should be $10bn. And if the true expectation is $10bn, it will end up costing $16-20bn.

And ridership will never hit expectations.


5 posted on 12/14/2004 4:32:21 PM PST by Petronski (Sleepin' on the interstate, ah whoa-o, Gettin' wild, wild life.)
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To: Willie Green

The state should not subsidize railroads. (19th C flashback!)


6 posted on 12/14/2004 4:33:26 PM PST by society-by-contract
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To: Petronski
And ridership will never hit expectations.

True. We are a nation of the automobile.

7 posted on 12/14/2004 4:34:02 PM PST by buccaneer81 (Rick Nash will score 50 goals this season ( if there is a season)
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To: Petronski

You heartless cynic - how dare you see through their claims and post the truth!


8 posted on 12/14/2004 4:34:39 PM PST by flashbunny (Every thought that enters my head requires its own vanity thread.)
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To: Willie Green
it will require significant federal funding

On top of the $10 trillion SS reform?  Get it line.  (It's a very long line.)
9 posted on 12/14/2004 4:36:58 PM PST by gcruse (http://gcruse.typepad.com/)
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To: Willie Green

It might run through 9 midwestern states, but every tax payer will be subsidizing it.


10 posted on 12/14/2004 4:44:11 PM PST by BigSkyFreeper (Congratulations President-Re-Elect George W. Bush!)
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To: BigSkyFreeper

The big dig exists only in Boston and we've all kicked in a buck or twenty.


11 posted on 12/14/2004 4:49:18 PM PST by ProudVet77 (Beer - It's not just for breakfast anymore.)
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To: Willie Green
Your continued "Love" of putting that Gun to My Head to Pay for Your "Greater Good" has pushed me over the edge...

Willie you need to move to China, they have a Dam with your name all over it, you can push around all the "little people" that you want, and most of them don't drive so you can have your Goons collecting Money for really Serious Infractions of "your law" instead of just simple "not wearing a seatbelts", they may even let you shoot a couple of us.

The problem with you loving Government (you may never realize it) so much, is that it will never Love you back.

FReedom is Love, self Love, Love of your fellow man, Trust and Government should probably not be spoken in the same sentence. (Yeah I know sounds a little DU on the edges but the Fruit is pure Freedom)
12 posted on 12/14/2004 4:56:06 PM PST by TexasTransplant (Iraq is a battle in a campaign in a war)
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To: Willie Green

http://www.dot.wisconsin.gov/projects/state/docs/railmidwest.pdf

Chicago is the Capital of this world.


13 posted on 12/14/2004 5:00:44 PM PST by Murtyo
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To: buccaneer81

We are a nation of the automobile...YES BUT what if you could out your car on that train like they do the chunnel?


14 posted on 12/14/2004 5:03:06 PM PST by UltraKonservativen (( YOU CAN'T FIX STUPID ))
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To: TexasTransplant

This is a Public Apology to Willie Green, Texas Transplant has mistaken him for a Government in your Face all the time Liberal, my mistake, Please accept my apology.

TT


15 posted on 12/14/2004 5:15:34 PM PST by TexasTransplant (Iraq is a battle in a campaign in a war)
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To: Willie Green

over a 10-year period at a cost of $7.7 billion




Yeah, sure..........

That means the cost will be $77 billion over 25 years and will attract mostly bums, winos and socialist mayors as riders.

What a screwball.

"Hey, Ernie! Let's build greased pneumatic tubes from LA to New York. We stick people in and squirt them through with 2 million psi blasts of air. They'll cover 3,000 miles in 3 minutes."

"Cool."


16 posted on 12/14/2004 5:20:13 PM PST by sergeantdave (Alas, poor Kerry, we know you well. That's why you lost.)
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To: society-by-contract
The state should not subsidize railroads.

Then it shouldn't subsidize airlines, trucking, and the automotive industry either. Nor should it subsidize the oil industry on which all of those forms of transportation are based. The current state of passenger rail is a textbook case of what happens when the government interferes with private industry and subsidizes competition.

17 posted on 12/14/2004 5:21:50 PM PST by HolgerDansk ("Oh Bother", said Pooh, as he chambered another round.)
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To: ProudVet77

The Big Dig = Uncle Ted's gift to America. The gift that keeps on taking.


18 posted on 12/14/2004 5:25:41 PM PST by BigSkyFreeper (Congratulations President-Re-Elect George W. Bush!)
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To: Willie Green
I'm concerned about how they could keep 3000 miles of track secure.

Imagine the kinetic energy of a 100-ton train going 110 mph leaving the rails. The death toll might not match the WTC attacks, but the headlines would.

19 posted on 12/14/2004 5:35:49 PM PST by ZOOKER (proudly killing threads since 1998)
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To: HolgerDansk

The state should not subsidize business period. Corporate welfare is costs about $150 billion a year according the folks who have tallied up the tax breaks and subsidies that corporations receive.

High speed rail is a beautiful thing. I went from London to Paris is three hours flat on the Chunnel train. No hassle of getting to the airport, no crappy airline food, a great view of the countryside at 150 mph, no traffic jams to worry about.

Another consideration: we are running out of radio frequencies for communication with aircraft. When we do run out of frequencies, airlines won't be able to put additional planes to work, which creates a window of opportunity for high speed rail.


20 posted on 12/14/2004 5:43:08 PM PST by kiwiexpat
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