ACLU Files Suit in Pa. Over Evolution

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[wkdaysoff]

HARRISBURG, Pa. — The state American Civil Liberties Union (search) plans to file a federal lawsuit Tuesday against a Pennsylvania school district that is requiring students to learn about alternatives to the theory of evolution (search).

The ACLU said its lawsuit will be the first to challenge whether public schools should teach "intelligent design," which holds that the universe is so complex that it must have been created by some higher power....

[RightWingNilla]

Would you argue that you cannot observe, in a reasonable time, erosion occur through hard stone under those circumstances?

Gotcha! Thats it then! If no one was there to observe it, it didnt happen. You cant prove it happened. My story is just as good as yours. (*fingers in ears*) La-La-La!

[jpsb]

Did I really say I agree with his quote?

My mistake, you did not. I will get back to this after work.

[johnnyb_61820]

See the following articles: Mix and Match in the Tree of Life Here's a gene that was thought to be exclusive to vertebrates, but now is found in a few quite disparate creatures Traditional phylogeny says that compound eyes formed once, but biochemically apparently it had to arise independently multiple times apparently humans and zebra fish share quite a lot of noncoding DNA (how many millions of years separate these guys? And the non-coding regions stay the same? Gosh!) Apparently chickens are pretty close to Turtles A quote from that article: "Given the great deal of support for much of the current pattern of vertebrate relationships, it is surprising how poorly molecular methods have fared in reconstructing the broad outline of vertebrate evolution. This is particularly worrying in the case of mitochondrial genome sequences, which are relatively large markers that have been thought of as ideal for phylogenetic work and are certainly very commonly used." Bee social behaviors are completely independent of phylogenic trees (a little offtopic, but interesting) Just for fun, more biochemical evidence for irreducible complexity Anyway, these should get you started.

[johnb838]

Have you ever seen a monkey? Look in the mirror, you'll see a monkey.

[Right in Wisconsin]

Abortion could be considered human sacrifice, and that started after people decided church was no longer relevant. If anything, having less faith brings us to the Dark Ages, not the other way around.

[Danae]

I agree completely! How do we the people fight this organization? A class action suit? Do we have to fight them at the state level? Can we do it Federally? As of today, it seems that the ACLU is acting outside it's own charter by trying to bring suit against the Fed Gov on behalf of foreginers - Prisoners at Guantanimo. They are supposed to act for those in the USA. Oops.
Seriously, how can we eliminate this evil Organization!?

[Rudder]

I was there before the ACLU...They're also defending Rush Limbaugh.

[Right in Wisconsin]

Geez, I sure hope your not an attorney, at law, as ability to research is tantamount to the profession (I know this personally). Here are some links easily found on google.

http://www.lifesite.net/ldn/2004/jul/04070703.html

http://www.persecution.org/Countries/bulgaria.html

http://www.persecution.org/Countries/croatia.html

http://www.persecution.org/Countries/moldova.html

http://www.persecution.org/Countries/romania.html

http://www.persecution.org/Countries/russia.html

[Right in Wisconsin]

That response proved without a doubt my position. You have to make unrelated comparisons to justify yourself and continue to condemn and demean to make your self feel better. Thanks for being so transparent. I'd rather rely on a 3000 year old text,yet to be proven in error, as opposed to believing in things claimed as science today and horsefeathers tomorrow. Good day to you!

[Right in Wisconsin]

No, your wrong again professor. Tree rings are not determinative of one per year (light and dark), ask any tree expert, fluctuations in atmosphere may cause two or three rings in one year because of freeze and thaw. Try again.

[Right in Wisconsin]

I like conservobabe - doesn't bother me a bit. Thanks.

[Shryke]

Indeed, indeed. There are none so blind...

[Right in Wisconsin]

Sure, it can date over 5730, but that's only a hopeful guess, not scientific fact.

[WildTurkey]

Did you read the article? Your reasoning is wrong but even with YOUR reasoning, then we can go back at least a billion years with other isotopes, right?

[WildTurkey]

Sure, it can date over 5730, but that's only a hopeful guess, not scientific fact.

What is your hangup about 5730. There is nothing magical about 5730. That just means after 570 years, one-half of the original isotope remains. After 11460 years, One-fourth remains and we can still measure it.

[balrog666]

That's funny - did you not read the articles you linked or did you just not understand them?

[Right in Wisconsin]

I already responded to the problematic tree ring theory.

[balrog666]

Abortion could be considered human sacrifice, and that started after people decided church was no longer relevant.

Wow, so you are ignorant of history too? Why am I not surprised.

[Right in Wisconsin]

That was not a detailed source, please! Your quite good at avoiding.

[Right in Wisconsin]

Actually, I'm glad you asked. There was this thing, a great flood, about 4000 years ago. I believe that the Grand Canyon is a result of this great thing and took much less than 4000, maybe even less than one year to create. How did your stream flow upward to cut through that rock? If you believe that physical properties are a constant, how can you explain a stream moving uphill?