Posted on 12/12/2004 7:52:25 PM PST by Mike Fieschko
COLUMBUS, Ohio - As it has done for 200 years, Ohio's delegation to the Electoral College (news - web sites) is to meet Monday to cast ballots for president and vice president — but this time, there are demands that the electors wait until after a recount. A demonstration was held Sunday as about 100 people gathered outside the Ohio Statehouse to protest the delegation's vote.The Electoral College's vote in the Ohio Senate chamber is expected to be accompanied by demonstrations outside the Capitol sponsored by groups who don't accept that President Bush (news - web sites) won the key swing state by 119,000 votes, guaranteeing his victory over Democrat John Kerry (news - web sites).
Led by a coalition representing the Green and Libertarian parties, the dissidents are paying for recounts in each of Ohio's 88 counties that will begin this week. The recount is not expected to be complete until next week.
"John Kerry conceded so early in the process that it's maddening," said Kat L'Estrange of We Do Not Concede, an activist group born after the election that believes Kerry was the real winner in Ohio and nationally.
L'Estrange, Susan Truitt of the Columbus-based Citizens Alliance for Secure Elections, and others demanded that the electoral vote be put off until the recount is completed.
"In Ohio, there has not been a final determination. Therefore, any meeting of the Electoral College in Ohio prior to a full recount would in fact be an illegitimate gathering," said John Bonifaz of the National Voting Rights Institute.
The dissidents claim there were disparities in vote totals for Democrats, too few voting machines in Democrat-leaning precincts, organized campaigns directing voters to the wrong polling place and confusion over the counting of provisional ballots by voters whose names did not appear in the books at polling places.
The Kerry campaign does not dispute that Bush won the election, but supports the Ohio recount. Kerry issued a statement Wednesday saying reported voting problems should be investigated to ensure there are no doubts in future elections.
Monday's Electoral College vote will follow the same script it has since 1804, when Ohio picked Thomas Jefferson, a Democratic Republican, over Federalist Charles C. Pinckney.
The electors will gather in the Senate chamber and cast votes for president, then vice president, on separate paper ballots. The ballots are counted by representatives of Secretary of State Kenneth Blackwell's office and then handed to Blackwell, who is the presiding officer of the electoral vote.
Blackwell then signs a "transmittal" of the vote total and sends it to the president of the U.S. Senate, who will announce the national total on Jan. 6.
Ohio's electors are a mix of GOP officials and others who are being rewarded for service to the party.
"It's a great honor to serve as a member of the Electoral College and it's a great honor to vote for President Bush," said Alex Arshinkoff, longtime chairman of the Summit County Republican Party who is an elector for the second straight meeting.
Karyle Mumper, chairwoman of the Marion County Republican Party, will be an elector for the first time. She, too, feels honored but believes the demonstrations outside will be a distraction.
"It's a shame they do not believe in the honesty and the professional people working the polls," said Mumper. "I just think they are sore losers and money and time (for the recount) could be spent on other things."
Pretty much sums it up!
"Canada's only a stone's throw away... Don't let us stop you..."
Isnt tomorrow officaly set, game, and match? As if Nov 2nd wasnt.. but still...
If you do not go away, we will taunt you a second time.
Yes, and if I'm not mistaken the Ohio SecState already certified. So how that barking moonbat can say this is an "illegitimate gathering" is beyond me.
It is 47 miles from the Ohio-Michigan state line to the Ambassador Bridge.
I'll help them pack.
After tomorrow, it will be in the hands of the House. No court in the country can stop it.
"L'Estrange of We Do Not Concede"
Hhmm. Sounds like a FRENCH name to me.
For a laugh, see www.wedonotconcede.com.
The lefties' responses to the election keep getting L'Estranger and L'Estranger.
I think I saw her dance at our local gentlemen's establishment...
100 sore losers? What a hoot! Jesse Jackson predicted massive demonstrations and chaos in the streets for this demonstration. What a joke these losers are.
Interesting article today in the St. Pete Times.
A group of activists that didn't believe in the reliability of the touch screen machines, got permission to test the machines after the vote was certified.
They brought volunteers and voted for hours, then checked the tally on the machines against the votes they knew they had cast...surprise, surprise...no discrepancy.
Don't get worked up. We Republicans tend to go to church on a regular basis. For these sick people, this is their version of "church". This is their chance to get with their peers. They know they've lost - what they may not realize is just how close they are to being destroyed politically.
Of course. The Republicans fixed the test. What else?
...proving conclusively that the tampering had been undone before their test.
That's easy. What the code actually said was:
If November 2, 2004, then
Total Kerry Vote = 0.96*(Recorded Kerry Votes)
Total Bush Vote = 1.04*(Recorded Bush Votes)
If NOT November 2, 2004, then
Total Kerry Vote = 1.00*(Recorded Kerry Votes)
Total Bush Vote = 1.00*(Recorded Bush Votes)
That's how my buddies at Diebold did it.
(this theory should tie up the Dems for a while)
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