In the past year I have probably spent at a minumum 50 hours on the phone with staffers and Reps.
$$$$$$$$MONEY$$$$$$$$$$ is what move our elected officials.
Posted on 12/11/2004 11:25:41 AM PST by B4Ranch
Lte's not a prude about this little orgy. :):)
Trifecta? :):)
From the number of replies that this thread and the other one received it looks like the majority of FReepers seem to be against any form of creativity and/or innovation for an action plan to correct our loss of authority over our "employees" that we select for high governmental positions.
As our personal freedoms and liberties continue to wither and our leaders aim for a designed dictatorial form of government under the United Nations directory I am almost certain that the realization of what they permitted will come far too late to be correctable.
Let me say, I am glad to be with the 50 or so of us who are on the 'other side' and not supporting the eventual collapse of America.
Where did FR's 'Fight to keep the Republic free' go to? Wherever it is, I guess it's gone, I should probably go back to occassional lurking instead of fooling myself.
When a thread about "E-Dating Bubble Springs a Leak ^" gets 324 replies and 5,396+ views I think it's obvious where the this forum is headed.
Take care, hoping you all have a very Merry Christmas.
I don't think it's because people don't want to talk about it. I think a lot of people feel powerless to stop it. You elect politicians and they go ahead do whatever they want once they get into office. As for e-dating, that's something I can control *LOL* When my mother asks me what she should do about illegal Mexican home aides undercutting American aide's wages (my mother is now a naturalized citizen), I don't know what to say because I know my local goverrnment gives a crap.
Not headed, IS.
BTTT!!!!!!!
Carolyn
Don't lose heart ~ fight for you believe!
Be Ever Viglint!
Merry Christmas ~ Bump!
it's quite simple, you just need to call your Senator and Congressman regularly. Visits are even better. And encourage others to do so.
Also realize that each call adds up, and they make an impact...
In the past year I have probably spent at a minumum 50 hours on the phone with staffers and Reps.
$$$$$$$$MONEY$$$$$$$$$$ is what move our elected officials.
Bump for later.
Sorry, as much as I like this President, I do not think his idea for worker identification cards and a practically open border with Mexico to be a good idea. I'd rather see the border militarized and mined. Sorry, if a bunch of Mexican kids get blasted, but that'll stop after the first three months body count. The American ranchers who are getting lit up by drug and people smugglers using full auto ought to have military radios on their property so they can notify U.S. military helicopter gunships when the shooting starts and they should be instructed on how to adjust fire. Heck if a 2nd Lieutenant can be taught this, dang near anybody can! I was once a screwey looie myself! We're being invaded, folks and it's dang sure time we acted to defend ourselves.
>> I think a lot of people feel powerless to stop it.<<
Sorry, but I disagree. Most sweet, kind, respectable, or whatever people do not want to hold a club (votes) over anyones head. They do not know how to win a fight because they have run like hell from every challenge that they possibly could have rather than stand and fight.
I won't buy Vaseline for that group.
I just read a highly informative book by Hugh Hewitt, If It's Not Close, They Can't Cheat and I learned a few things that were difficult to accept but which nonetheless are correct. For example, ONLY MAJORITIES COUNT! Sometimes, in some places, only the RINO can get elected. If you have the majority, you control the agenda. That means if you have a strong incumbent like Specter, you help him get reelected, even if you just KNOW he's gonna stab you in the back, someday. Because the minority party is almost powerless.
If you have enough of the conservatives in your corner, you can keep the others in line. But to do that, you can't let your extremists (of which I am one, I admit) run the party because they scare other folks away. If we let the Republican Party be fractured instead of working within the infrastructure, we're going to end up exactly like the Democraps. They are the party of disparate minorities who bicker amongst each other for prime seats to the table. Look, read the book. It's awesome.
"I think people are in denial to the extent which our freedom has been compromised and to which our government has been corrupted. I think thats one of the problems."
Bingo.
Bttt!
I would help out with an organization that has that purpose.
Touch the issues that are important to me.
I will be relocating soon, can't put up with CA anymore...had enough of most of the people here. This is not a healthy place to be anymore. Besides I can take my equity in this little condo here and pay cash for 30 acres and a 5 bedroom house now.
First of the year, resumes start going out. I'll hopefully be in Utah by late January.
Till then...I'll pitch in here, and after that...I'll be an extra set of arms you can count on up there.
BANG
I think that's the way you do it...attract the bang list attention...that is
I've started several replies and then checked them each time. Because I'm supportive, I'll try one more time and actually submit my comments here. Furthermore, I think FR is a good forum for expressing these suggestions, as well. In addition to the group you're proposing B4, I like many of the Patriot and Constitution party tenets, as well.
Because the Christian right (I think incorrectly) believes that religion is the main key to solving the problems that have been pushed on us by the left, I would caution everyone on the language in the platforms of any new organization relating to Biblical law. We have lost our value for truth and meaning in political language. This is central to all of our travails. The Christian right, in ways that can be manipulated by big business and other external influences stumbles toward a solution to that primary threat through religion. But because many good Christians and their supporters who believe that government is a source of tyranny rather than a defense against it, both the Patriot and Constitution parties fall short in this respect. These positions should be stated such that it can never be construed that reason and persuasion are trumped by subjective Christian dogma in the construction of American law. The Founding Fathers feared religious partisanship as a divisive threat to the state; we should fear it as well, but come up with new forms of defense against new, pagan religions such as secular humanism and the spiritualism of the new environmentalist movements. These "new" belief systems are equally a threat to a government maintained by reason, truth, and justice. And their appeals to the people come in much the same way that partisan appeals to religious dogma came to Europe in the dark ages.
Understanding the historical context in which the founding fathers established the American constitution is important, and it is that law that positioned us for the first civil war. Any second one would find its roots there, as well; certainly the culture war we face now is rooted in the dashed hopes the founding fathers had that the American people would maintain their ethical roots. The unholy grail of diversity and our media's and educational institutions' vulnerability to post-structuralism and post-modernism were problems the founding fathers either didn't anticipate or couldn't adequately avert. Both pitfalls have been central to the religious-like inclusion of secular humanism in our government. If we could define humanism correctly as a religion, we could find new ways of defending ourselves with the law. While the founding fathers were students of the Enlightenment, they were not (I would argue) humanists. They did not believe that human nature was necessarily good. In fact, the checks and balances introduced by our constitution as well as the obliteration of the notion of divine right in leaders were both based on the notion of human corruptibility.
We are responsible for maintaining the same level of statesmanship that they had. Without it, America will decline. The DNC and the RNC have abandoned the need for statesmanship and have fallen prey to corruption; clearly the DNC is much worse, but we must not settle for second best. As long as the RNC continues to take the view that America can sustain unlimited immigration and retain its culture, it is party to the destruction of this country's stability from within. As long as it takes the view that gun control is a necessary evil, as for example do Schwarzenegger, Pataki, and Giuliani, the RNC is party to the sort of tyranny Thomas Jefferson said needed to be rooted out periodically. As long as our schools -- any public schools -- are venues for environmental extremism (as opposed to conservationism), the homosexual agenda, and the Gramascian array of anti-Enlightenment socialist principles, the RNC is guilty of appearing different while in effect remaining the same.
We can't expect everyone to agree with us. We can't expect to agree with each other on everything. For example, I believe privacy is Constitutional and limits exactly what the government can or should do. But I think we all agree that the DNC needs principled opposition rather than procedural and issue by issue disagreements that devolve into petty bickering and trading of tits for tats. Some of those tats involve the future of this country.
The recent intelligence bill vote should suggest to all Americans that no one in Congress or the Senate can be trusted. The RNC's majority is less of a victory than we hoped if it can't translate to real change.
I want to join you all in pushing for real change, not just the cosmetic, RINO variety.
Give me a ping when you get here.
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