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To: Kolokotronis; mark502inf
Objective, or historically and culturally uninformed?

Kolo, you obviously don't know mark, who has been on these threads forever providing "objective" information in support of Balkan Muslims. He is not alone, as there are a couple of others -- one with a Greek mythological nome de plume who, I know, is more than partial when it comes to Allah. p My policy is simple: I do not negotiate with Muslims. This is not my idea, but theirs. Former Bosnian Muslim boss, Alija Izetbegovic, wrote in his Islamic Declaration "there can be neither peace nor coexistence between the Islamic faith and non-Islamic social and political institutions."

Mark, I believe that wholeheartedly. With people like that -- there is simply nothing to negotiate.

In 1912, the Serb army liberated Kosovo after nearly 500 years of Ottoman occupation. In post #35, Mark says that Serbs "invaded and took over" Kosovo. Truly "objective" and historically "accurate."

Mark you are peddling fraud. Kosovo belonged to Serbs when it was invaded and taken over by the Mohammedan hordes of the Ottoman Empire. In 1912 the Serbs took back what was theirs to begin with.

But to an unsuspecting reader, your "objective" accounts are easily mistaken for genuine rather than twisted truth that you offer.

63 posted on 12/11/2004 10:48:24 AM PST by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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To: kosta50
In 1912, the Serb army liberated Kosovo after nearly 500 years of Ottoman occupation. In post #35, Mark says that Serbs "invaded and took over" Kosovo. Truly "objective" and historically "accurate."

Now, Kosta--after 500 years since the last time the Serbs were in charge of Kosovo, you ought to be able to see why to someone living there in 1912 it did not look like liberation when the Serb military crossed the border and by force of arms established Serbian sovereignty over Kosovo and the people living there (OK--is that more objective and accurate than "invaded and took over"?).

"there can be neither peace nor coexistence between the Islamic faith and non-Islamic social and political institutions." .... With people like that -- there is simply nothing to negotiate.

OK, but he's Bosnian, he's dead, and he had nothing to do with the Albanian-Serb conflict in Kosovo.

Mark you are peddling fraud. Kosovo belonged to Serbs when it was invaded and taken over by the Mohammedan hordes of the Ottoman Empire. In 1912 the Serbs took back what was theirs to begin with.

I don't exactly know when irredentist claims to long-ago conquered lands expire, but I'd say it should be at some point under 500 years.

In any event, I understand the cultural importance of Kosovo to Serbia. What you have to confront is that it was the decidedly un-Christian and non-Democratic nature of Serb rule in recent years over the Kosovar Albanians that has put you in the position where Kosovo Polje is once again no longer under Serbian dominion. And the likelihood of final status negotiations returning Kosovo to full Serbian sovereignty is slim as long as Serbs fail to even acknowledge the atrocities they committed, much less bring those responsible to justice.

66 posted on 12/11/2004 11:55:23 AM PST by mark502inf
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To: kosta50; mark502inf; dennisw
Mark....no offense meant but,I think the KLA must have spiked the kool aid you drank, when they were shmoozing you.

Alabanians/KLA = good, serbs = bad.

Would it be a fair comment to say that because you're boots were on the ground, that doesnot make you an expert in the history of Balkans?

Orthodox Christians appear to be the one clearly identified christian group who have had to stand-up against islamic conqueror's in the balkan region over many centuries.

There's no need to claim a false objectivity in your comments, show your personal bias against serbs and orthodox christians, it comes shining through anyway.

73 posted on 12/11/2004 12:53:34 PM PST by gitmogrunt (undecorated and proud. God Bless our troops and their Families.)
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To: kosta50
"Kolo, you obviously don't know mark, who has been on these threads forever providing "objective" information in support of Balkan Muslims."

You're right. I thought he was just some American who'd served over there but come home with the same "defined by the outer suburbs of Peoria world view" that he left with and whose opinion of Mohammedans was formed by the Pakistani at the local C store who gave candy to all the kids.

"My policy is simple: I do not negotiate with Muslims. This is not my idea, but theirs. Former Bosnian Muslim boss, Alija Izetbegovic, wrote in his Islamic Declaration "there can be neither peace nor coexistence between the Islamic faith and non-Islamic social and political institutions.""

My people didn't negotiate with them much either in the past 200 odd years. No quarter given, none asked for. Mostly they just slit their throats when the slitting was good. Until recently, Greece didn't really have a Mohammedan problem, the the EU came along.

" In 1912 the Serbs took back what was theirs to begin with."

Fighting right along side my people to victory!
86 posted on 12/11/2004 1:40:01 PM PST by Kolokotronis (Nuke the Cube!)
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To: kosta50

"you obviously don't know mark, who has been on these threads forever providing "objective" information in support of Balkan Muslims. He is not alone, as there are a couple of others"

Personally, I find it interesting to see which articles mark and co post replies to. One group of threads which I noticed thier lack of presence on was the threads about the Dutch documentary showing Albanian support for Democrat candidates prior to the US election. I guess they must have missed those threads.


134 posted on 12/12/2004 5:31:41 AM PST by Jane_N (Truth, like beauty....is in the eyes of the beholder! And please DON'T feed the trolls!)
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