Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

To: kosta50
In 1912, the Serb army liberated Kosovo after nearly 500 years of Ottoman occupation. In post #35, Mark says that Serbs "invaded and took over" Kosovo. Truly "objective" and historically "accurate."

Now, Kosta--after 500 years since the last time the Serbs were in charge of Kosovo, you ought to be able to see why to someone living there in 1912 it did not look like liberation when the Serb military crossed the border and by force of arms established Serbian sovereignty over Kosovo and the people living there (OK--is that more objective and accurate than "invaded and took over"?).

"there can be neither peace nor coexistence between the Islamic faith and non-Islamic social and political institutions." .... With people like that -- there is simply nothing to negotiate.

OK, but he's Bosnian, he's dead, and he had nothing to do with the Albanian-Serb conflict in Kosovo.

Mark you are peddling fraud. Kosovo belonged to Serbs when it was invaded and taken over by the Mohammedan hordes of the Ottoman Empire. In 1912 the Serbs took back what was theirs to begin with.

I don't exactly know when irredentist claims to long-ago conquered lands expire, but I'd say it should be at some point under 500 years.

In any event, I understand the cultural importance of Kosovo to Serbia. What you have to confront is that it was the decidedly un-Christian and non-Democratic nature of Serb rule in recent years over the Kosovar Albanians that has put you in the position where Kosovo Polje is once again no longer under Serbian dominion. And the likelihood of final status negotiations returning Kosovo to full Serbian sovereignty is slim as long as Serbs fail to even acknowledge the atrocities they committed, much less bring those responsible to justice.

66 posted on 12/11/2004 11:55:23 AM PST by mark502inf
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 63 | View Replies ]


To: mark502inf
Mark you are peddling fraud. Kosovo belonged to Serbs when it was invaded and taken over by the Mohammedan hordes of the Ottoman Empire. In 1912 the Serbs took back what was theirs to begin with.

I don't exactly know when irredentist claims to long-ago conquered lands expire, but I'd say it should be at some point under 500 years. 

Far less than 500 years. Christian Serbs were a majority after WW2. Slowly the Muslims whittled down the Christian population in Kosovo via legal/illegal immigration, via out breeding Serbs, by driving Serbs out of Kosovo

Exactly the same thing happened in Lebanon. I'm sick to the gills of Muslims hijacking Christian nations and multi ethnic nations. Your kooky Muslims have another tactic in India. A few provinces in India are heading to Muslim majority and your Muzzies want to cleave them off to make mini Pakistanis from them. Muslims will never live in peace next to non Muslim populations. Not for extended times.

67 posted on 12/11/2004 12:04:48 PM PST by dennisw (Help put the "Ch" back in Chanukah)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 66 | View Replies ]

To: mark502inf
And the likelihood of final status negotiations returning Kosovo to full Serbian sovereignty is slim as long as Serbs fail to even acknowledge the atrocities they committed, much less bring those responsible to justice.

This a fraudulent statement. No Muslim nation or province ever agrees to live under Christian rule. After a war perhaps, but not voluntarily. Serbia could "acknowledge atrocities" for the next thousand years and Kosovo Muslim would not agree to live under Serb administration. Your statement shows a huge misunderstanding of Islam and Jihad. One that many Europeans have so now they get anti Muslim moviemakers assassinated in their streets with seven page declarations of Jihad stuck onto the victim via a knife plunged into his chest.

68 posted on 12/11/2004 12:10:47 PM PST by dennisw (Help put the "Ch" back in Chanukah)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 66 | View Replies ]

To: mark502inf; Kolokotronis; dennisw
I don't exactly know when irredentist claims to long-ago conquered lands expire, but I'd say it should be at some point under 500 years

Why don't you tell the Israelis, the American Isralei lobby, the Congress, the Chief Executive, the Evangelical Zionists, and -- the whole world -- that by your own rules Israli "irridentists" had their chance to get their land back, but that right expired in 577 A.D.?

At which point does a stolen property become legitimate possession of the one who stole it? If I start bringing my family as squatters in your back yard and eventually overpopulate your property, does your property become mine when you are pushed to the last room in your house?

You are applying civil justice to something that is neither civil no just. The Muslims recognize only one nation, as Izetbegovic argued -- Islam. If Izetbegovic's declaration is true, ti means whatever Muslims cooperate with the West and whom we support, they are doing it only for their benefit, lying in wait until they can strike the hand that feeds them.

OK, but [Izetvegovic] is Bosnian, he's dead, and he had nothing to do with the Albanian-Serb conflict in Kosovo

Muslims are allowed to lie in order to deceive infidels. If you are not a Muslim, you are doing the lying for them. Izetbegovic was a fundamentalist Muslim first and formost. Bieng a Muslim is above secualr states and nations. This is another example of your fraud -- telling people a diception and knowing very well that Muslims are one nation and not many.

It is not possible to reconcile, negotiate or believe a Muslim -- not because we don't want to, but because their faith forbids them to make friends with infidels lest they become like them.

That's why a discussion with your "objective" analyses of the Balkans, is pointless and a waste of time. I just want to make sure the ignorant readers don't fall for your historical reivsionism and dysinformation.

105 posted on 12/11/2004 8:47:43 PM PST by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 66 | View Replies ]

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article


FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson