Posted on 12/10/2004 5:24:36 PM PST by calreaganfan
The conventional wisdom of the political punditry has been proven wrong again. A huge national voter turnout was thought to favor the Democrat candidate, but Pres. Bush's national popular vote count from the Nov. 2, 2004 general election has now exceeded 62 million votes. As of 12/10/04, Pres. Bush has received 62,019,003 votes. The states of NY and PA have certified their official results in the past two days which pushed Pres. Bush's vote count over the 62 million mark. CA will certify its results tomorrow, but almost all CA votes are already included in the Bush total (by obtaining vote counts from CA county websites). Only MN, ME and a few other states have yet to certify their official results.
I never go near that place.
DU = the braindead center of the really mentally ill of the lunatic left.
another worrisome trend, since the loonies took over the Democratic party they nominated McGovern (who was trounced in 72 by Nixon), Mondale (who did marginally better -percentagewise- than MCcGovern but was still humiliated), Dukakis who did a little better still and now sKerry who got within 60k Ohio votes of winning...
Let's see: An ad hominum attack instead of adressing the facts which I raised, followed by regurgitating your original argument for the upteenth time. You realize that you are exhibiting classical liberal methods of argument, which they always have to do when their position is not supported by the facts.
Anyway, since you obviously don't grasp the mathematical concept of percantages, I agree with you we should indeed "leave it at that". Have a nice day.
LOL You're the one who responded to my post, junior. If you hadn't butted in, nothing would have gotten started, as you say. Period. Instead, you became extremely defensive because several FReepers challenged you on the facts and you don't like being challenged. When you decided to compare the election legacy of Ronald Reagan against the Bush43 election victory of 2004, you opened a can of worms. You've made a feverish attempt to prove that you are right and those who disagreed with you are all wrong. Well, not only did you lose the arugment, but you've displayed an arrogance and shrillness usually exhibited by liberals and malcontents on Free Republic. On top of that, you've engaged in ad hominem attacks and carried on like a 12 year old.
>>>>These are the facts. You will just have learn to deal with them.
I can deal with the facts, the one thing I won't put up with is you undermining the Reagan legacy. You have cited data of voters in a fraudulant manner and that is deadwrong. I will continue to point this out at every opportunity you offer up.
>>>>I wonder how many FReepers will agree with you that there is "nothing remarkable" about Pres. Bush garnering more than 62 million votes.
Many FReepers, including myself, knew there was going to be a huge turnout. I thought 115+ million would be likely. The question was, whether the Democrats would have a bigger turnout then the Republicans. The Religious Right came out in droves and literally carried PresBush to victory. Again, the issue of this debate wasn't about turnout. This was about you pitting the factual outcome of the Bush43 election victory against the Reagan legacy. And on the factually contex issue, you have been proven deadwrong.
>>>>The pompous "Reagan Man" ...
Another ad hominem attack. Ho-hum.
>>>>Can we please leave it at that.
You've just posted four more replies to me and then you say, let's "leave it at that". What gall. Earlier on this thread, I suggessted you walk away. I see you must have the last word.
yes and am happy Dubya is gonna be at the helm for the next four years.
What about as a % of the total population? Reagan's landslide was in 1988, 16 years ago when the US population was smaller.
"You've made a feverish attempt to prove that you are right and those who disagreed with you are all wrong. Well, not only did you lose the arugment, but you've displayed an arrogance and shrillness usually exhibited by liberals and malcontents on Free Republic. On top of that, you've engaged in ad hominem attacks and carried on like a 12 year old."
LOL!! Talk about being "shrill". After being proven wrong repeatedly on the facts, your lame response is to launch a personal attack. Your whining about Pres. Bush's record-setting victory is matched only by the Democrats.
"Many FReepers, including myself, knew there was going to be a huge turnout. I thought 115+ million would be likely"
Thanks for proving my point. The record-setting voter turnout inspired by Pres. Bush is actually between 122.5 and 123 million which is well beyond what you say your prediction was (which you called "huge"). At the same time you say there was nothing surprising or remarkable about Bush's victory. Your posts are becoming increasingly contradictory and nonsensical.
"This was about you pitting the factual outcome of the Bush43 election victory against the Reagan legacy. And on the factually contex issue, you have been proven deadwrong."
I have no idea what you mean by the "factually contex issue", but your continued false assertion that I somehow inpugned Reagan's legacy by making false or "fraudulent" claims about Pres. Bush's victory will not go unchallenged. As often as you repeat these falsehoods, I will reply with what I stated:
All the vote count numbers that I've posted have been completely accurate as well as the factual statements that 1) Pres. Bush obliterated Reagan's popular vote record; 2) Pres. Bush inspired an historic voter turnout (the largest EVER since the voting rules were changed in 1972); and 3) Pres. Bush helped to achieve Republican Party victories that no GOP President had accomplished since the 1920s.
WOW. With each reply you post you're getting more irrational, obsessed and desperate. As long as you dwell in the ozone, somewhere between the twilight zone and the outer limits, you won't ever be taken seriously. When you have something relevent to say, I'll be around. Until then, rave on.
"WOW. With each reply you post you're getting more irrational, obsessed and desperate. As long as you dwell in the ozone, somewhere between the twilight zone and the outer limits, you won't ever be taken seriously. When you have something relevent to say, I'll be around. Until then, rave on."
LOL!!!! Your use of the words "irrational", "obsessed", "desperate", "ozone", "twilight zone" , "outer limits" in a single post is the definition of "raving on"! In psychological terms, it's called projection!
In psychological terms, you're defined as demented.
"In psychological terms, you're defined as demented."
That's really original, but thanks for conceding the argument. Next time, you might want to get your facts straight before you post on FR.
Sorry to disappoint you. You not only lost the argument, you've lost your mind. Seek professional help asap.
ps- You're entitled to your own opinion but not your own facts.
"Sorry to disappoint you. You not only lost the argument, you've lost your mind. Seek professional help asap."
Yeah right. That's why your posts have denigrated into personal insults. When proven wrong on the facts, you've resorted to sputtering insults. Just chalk it up as a lesson--don't post until you know what you're talking about.
well, how could that be? we all know that pollsters are independents politically. (/s)
LOL I see you still can't keep the facts straight. Sorry, changing the subject won't help you and running from the truth won't help you either. You've lost your ability to have a rational debate. You're both sad and pathetic.
"changing the subject won't help you and running from the truth won't help you either."
LOL!! You're projecting again! I've asked you numerous times to point out exactly which facts I got wrong. Instead, you're throwing around insults out of desperation. So again, which of the three points listed below are factually incorrect?
All the vote count numbers that I've posted have been completely accurate as well as the factual statements that 1) Pres. Bush obliterated Reagan's popular vote record; 2) Pres. Bush inspired an historic voter turnout (the largest EVER since the voting rules were changed in 1972); and 3) Pres. Bush helped to achieve Republican Party victories that no GOP President had accomplished since the 1920s.
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