Posted on 12/10/2004 8:54:04 AM PST by SwordofTruth
Yup.
Yes, I'll also admit that I wasn't wordy enough to describe the background and I will apologize for that.
I keep wanting to add "villa" "I went home" to your tag line.
Retrofitting vehicles that are already over there is a lot different than producing new vehicles or even retrofitting vehicles stateside.
Rumsfeld should be Donefeld.
Yep.
A job that people must volunteer for at that. Seems to me they don't have to worry about their job, they have the best job security in the entire nation.
Unfortunately, that is the way I feel - the media has been out to get him ever since the start of the war. They didn't get him on Abu Ghraib, they didn't get him on the "missing weapons", but you know as well as I do, these things have a cumulative effect.
I understand President Bush's confidence in him, but this particular issue is being portrayed as an imminent danger to our troops - hits right at the gut.
Sorry if you misinterpreted my post.
Might get too long for a tagline, c, but I appreciate the thought...
My appolgies for over-reacting. I think this is going to blow-over as the media is getting more egg on its face as the facts come out. Such as, the reason for the delay in heading north was that the unit was being equipped with up-armored HUMVEEs. A minor "Opps!".
"Humvee is a jeep replacement.......how many jeeps have been armored up over the past wars ? Zip, nada , none ! "
Bingo!
The intent of the HUMVEE is that of a UTILITY vehicle - that's what the U in HUMVEE stands for. IT was never designed as a "first contact" combat vehicle.
Prior to this go in the desert, the preponderance of armored HUMVEEs were for Militery police (I think that CAV Scouts MAY have had them also, but not sure about that) use only - hardtop, fastback models - fully armored. The remainder were of the utility pickup truck, command vehicle, or medic "cracker box" configuration.
The intent here with this conflict was to "get in, get out, get gone". We now, however, have been drawn into that which we really did not intend upon - that of an occupying force in the midst of an insurgency.
Rummy should just 'fess-up" and say so, instead of blaming industry for operating "At capacity" which as noted above, is a load of crap.
Anyway, now that the lamestream media has been successful in bringing down Bernie Kerik, the Rummy flap is not gonna be the main story, at least for a few days. Let's hope that during those few days, more of the facts will come out about the armored units.
Even so, they're NEVER going to let up: their ultimate goal is not only to bring down Rummy, Condi, and other administration people, they want to bring down the big guy himself - President Bush. What better way for them to do it than to attempt to turn Iraq into another Vietnam.
The election has changed NOTHING with these vermin. The will of the people means nothing. Their ideology trumps all - just look at this charade that's been going on about the Ohio voting "irregularities". What a parade of losers. That C-Span would even give them air time shows you what we're up against.
I worry about exactly the opposite effect. After the Kerik incident, and seeing that the administration was quick to just let Kerik go and move on to someone else, I think the odds of a Rumsfeld resignation over this armor thing have increased.
when blood is in the water, the sharks are the most dangerous.
as you can by many of the posts on this thread - Rumsfeld is in serious trouble. if the "faithful" here are willing to buy into "its all Rumsfeld's fault" on this armor issue, then given that we know that the Dems and the media are salivating to get him and destroy the military effort in iraq, he could be gone if even people in the base are buying this.
The whole issue of assigning blame to the current administration is BS. Defense spending during the 90's was the lowest percent of GDP in recent history and unfortunately the troops are paying for it now. The Dems just nominated a flthy traitor who voted against needed monies for the troops and subsequently they no moral authority on the issue.
Should we cessate any military action until the military is rebuilt after the Clinton dark years? All the readiness reports said that our military could wage a two theatre war at the Clinton force and budget levels. Does anyone believe that to be true?
I don't have to admit that, and I won't. Your comments bely your statement that you are a "Rummy Supporter". You are starting to smell kind of "trollish" to me.
Troll Clean-up on aisle 54 please!
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