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Democratic unCivil War
www.crushkerry.com (soon to be www.anklebitingpundits.com) ^ | 12/10/04 | www.crushkerry.com (soon to be www.anklebitingpundits.com)

Posted on 12/10/2004 8:48:07 AM PST by crushkerry

This house, divided against itself, will surely not stand

Folks, if you want tomorrow’s news today, just read Crush Kerry (soon, we promise, to be renamed Ankle Biting Pundits.)

We told you the radical left was going to make borking Bernard Kerik their chief post-election priority, and the hatchet job has already started.

Then we told you the Dem’s were in worse shape that anyone else was reporting. In fact, at the time we wrote the brief article on the unhealthy state of the Angry Party, fissures with in the GOP were all anyone was talking about. Once again we were right. But perhaps we even underestimated the state of the problem. The fact is, the Democrats are amidst a civil war the likes of which we may have never seen before. And they are a long way from sorting themselves out.

David Limbaugh puts it well in a recent post: “Just when the Dems thought Republicans were imploding from within over conflicting approaches to the intelligence reform bill, Dems have already one-upped the GOP in the disharmony department. We're sure to see more of this debate as Dem players, like Dean, begin to compete for the DNC chairmanship. But then again Terry McAwful's lead boots are going to be pretty tough to fill.”

The fight will only become more pronounced as the various candidates for General Chairman of the Democrat Party begin to layout their disparate visions for the party’s future. Some wise bloke will recommend reaching out to those Hilter-esque Christians in middle-America and the radicals will take his head off. That’ll be gooooooood watchin’. (For the record, we’ve endorsed Howard Dean for Chair.)

The group taking the head off the reasonable guy will undoubtedly be MoveOn.org. The leader of MoveOn.org sent an e-mail to the group’s members insisting that “we own” the Democrat Party. They administered the proverbial Homer Simpson glove slap to the current crop of leaders and vowed to “take it back.” Far from a gesture of solidarity, the e-mail shook with all the hostility and pent up rage that caused the fringe group to post an ad on their website which compared our president to Adolph Hitler, costing Democrats at least two House seats.

Moveon.org has become a big problem for the Democrats. Anyone who even slightly criticizes the group is in for a harsh counterattack. Like a cult in decline, they have begun to turn on apostate members, rather than seek to proselytize to the unconverted. We were around in the Clinton era when rightwingers wanted to “take over” the GOP (shoot, we were among them), but there was never this level of acrimony.

Meanwhile the uber-popular lefty site Daily Kos has openly criticized the putatively moderate Democrat Leadership Council, calling them “idiots,” comparing them to The Flat Earth Society, and challenging their very relevance to the success of the Democrat coalition.

The entire Democrat operation is so backward-thinking these days. They seem more obsessed with finding a voting irregularity around every corner than with winning elections. “We can’t possibly have lost!” the thinking goes. “Everyone hates George W. Bush like we do, right?” But no one challenges their thinking. In such a logic vacuum, loudmouths like the simps at MoveOn.org can stroll in effortlessly and take control. They are doing so now. And they are going to win.

About a week ago, we asked folks to help us rename MoveOn.org, as the name just didn’t seem to fit anymore. You all came up with some pretty funny stuff. But no one – not even us – came up with the name they have chosen: The Democratic Party.


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1 posted on 12/10/2004 8:48:07 AM PST by crushkerry
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To: Grampa Dave; LincolnLover; jmstein7; backinthefold; .cnI redruM; OXENinFLA; Badeye; K1avg; ...

Ping


2 posted on 12/10/2004 8:48:35 AM PST by crushkerry (Visit www.crushkerry.com to see John Kerry's positions filleted))
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To: crushkerry

We need healthy division to make this system work. The problem is not even with a moderate amount of incivility. It isn't even the act of trying to destroy each other (entirely). The problem is the dishonesty that goes with the battle -- and the willingness to destroy our entire structure of government for a temporal win. A destroyed politican will get over it. There is always another waiting. A disabled party can rebuild. A destroyed system of representative government might not recover without destoying all of us.


3 posted on 12/10/2004 8:54:31 AM PST by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Legislatures are so outdated. If you want real political victory, take your issue to court.)
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To: crushkerry
The fight will only become more pronounced as the various candidates for General Chairman of the Democrat Party begin to layout their disparate visions for the party’s future.

I can't wait for that. They say a camel is a horse designed by committee, but when the committee is an insane asylum you can bet your last dollar that the outcome will be....interesting.

4 posted on 12/10/2004 8:55:47 AM PST by randog (What the....?!)
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To: crushkerry
everyone needs to find all these kooks petitions and sign them, make sure you mention your love for Howard Dean ;-)
5 posted on 12/10/2004 8:59:27 AM PST by Ksnavely
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To: crushkerry
I disagree with the argument that Dean will take the Chair of the DNC. Dick Morris argued last night on O'Reilly that Dean may have the fanatical base, but Hillary and the "moderates" have the money and connections in the party, which is more than enough to steamroll MobOn. I don't listen to Dick Morris when he gives Republicans advice, but he does know the Democratic Party, and I believe him on this issue.

It's too bad that Dean probably won't win the DNC Chair--that would be a dream come true for the GOP. Imagine having Dean the Screamer and the Michael Moore wing of the party to run against in 2006 and 2008. If the Clinton wing of the party wins out, as I expect, they will be more difficult to marginalize, as Hilary has been trying to position herself as a moderate. It doesn't fool me, but it may fool some voters. On the plus side, Hilary has a tin-ear for politics, and lacks the ability to appear warm and human, which is what makes her different from her husband.
6 posted on 12/10/2004 9:00:08 AM PST by VikeFan
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To: crushkerry

Let the mayhem begin! Yeeeeeeeaaaaaaaahhhhhhhh!!


7 posted on 12/10/2004 9:04:25 AM PST by colorado tanker (The People Have Spoken)
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To: crushkerry
The leader of MoveOn.org sent an e-mail to the group’s members insisting that “we own” the Democrat Party.

One needs to understand that the Beltway Democratic Party elite who have worked in party patronage jobs for most of their life are fighting among themselves for fewer and fewer Senate & House staff and committee jobs. They were desperately hoping to have a US President hand out lots of Executive Branch jobs, but Bush won. To make matters worse the WA DC Republicans are now (horrors!) requiring lobbyists to be real "Republicans" to gain access.

This means that the core financial benefit of being a loyal democratic party hack is disappearing at the federal level.

On the local level, the money being funneled in from Washington DC by the Democratic party is becoming less and less reliable. That means that the "economic and financial" benefit of being a democratic party hack, whether through a labor union, citizen activist group, or public welfare class of people is drying up as well.

Without the historic "glue" (i.e. federal money) to bind together the Democratic party membership, the Democratic party is about to implode.

I fully expect to see the Democratic party restructure itself into a "green party" and a "socialist party." One of the very surprising things about the Nader campaign was that he was saying (and many radical Dem's were listening) that the Dem's were under the control of big corporations and big labor that acted like corporations. Moveon.Org is just telling the Dem's what Nader was saying in his campaign.

Again, I expect the Democratic party to implode and become at least two other political parties in the very near future.

8 posted on 12/10/2004 9:08:19 AM PST by Robert357 (D.Rather "Hoist with his own petard!" www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1223916/posts)
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To: crushkerry
I vote for Whiplash, the Rodeo Monkey
as DNC chairman(chairmonkey?)


9 posted on 12/10/2004 9:11:28 AM PST by Bobber58 (whatever it takes, for as long as it takes)
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To: Robert357

Excellent analysis. Let me add something for your consideration. I don't think Dean wants to be the DNC chair. I think he wants to be denied the chair by the rest of the party, so he can mobilize his base, Look...Hillary is proceedign inexorably to the nomination by annointment...if Howie wants it in 2008..he has to stop her..at least slow her down..now...so..he creates an issue..


10 posted on 12/10/2004 9:21:51 AM PST by ken5050 (Ann Coulter needs to have children ASAP to propagate her gene pool. Any volunteers?)
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To: Robert357

Robert I think you are right, and the lack of competition may result in the Republicans experiencing a fissure as well as the Christians finally realize that the Republican elite NEVER intended to honestly pursue their issues.

We may have 4 parties in the very near future in a system really designed for only two.


11 posted on 12/10/2004 9:25:09 AM PST by JFK_Lib
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To: Robert357

Green and Socialist are the same thing.

yes, if the Dems go that route, then moderate patronage-oriented folks with become RINOs and hope to suck up to the GOP, making the GOP the dominant majority party (but fraught with factionalism, like the Dems were when they were the majority).

but let us not overestimate our strength here - the Dems are close to even in the statehouses owned. they own Cali and several of the big states. Bush beat kerry by only 3 points, and Bush was an incumbent.

It is not impossible for the Dems to get their act together and win in 2008.



12 posted on 12/10/2004 9:28:18 AM PST by WOSG (Liberating Iraq - http://freedomstruth.blogspot.com)
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To: crushkerry
Very nice piece. But of course you have to change your name. Kerry is already crushed. Look to the future. CrushKillary! perhaps?

Billybob
13 posted on 12/10/2004 9:29:52 AM PST by Congressman Billybob (Visit: www.ArmorforCongress.com please.)
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To: Congressman Billybob

We've got crushclinton reserved.

We're going to be www.anklebitingpundits.com as soon as some technical issues are worked out. The name is a play on the words of a Newsweek columnist who said after the bloggers exposed Rathergate that bloggers have made us "a nation of ankle biters".

Thanks


14 posted on 12/10/2004 9:31:19 AM PST by crushkerry (Visit www.crushkerry.com to see John Kerry's positions filleted))
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To: Bobber58
Maybe they could elect a triumvirate:


15 posted on 12/10/2004 9:32:36 AM PST by Mad_Tom_Rackham (Time to let slip the dogs...)
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To: Mad_Tom_Rackham

lolol...the middleman always seems perplexed


16 posted on 12/10/2004 9:34:52 AM PST by Bobber58 (whatever it takes, for as long as it takes)
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To: crushkerry

btt


17 posted on 12/10/2004 9:49:02 AM PST by lilmsdangrus
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To: crushkerry

This sounds good for us. However, if the civil war turns into secession and schism, then the moderate democrats will be able to dump the radicals and form a party to take the center. With the DUers to the left and the GOP to the right, they may eventually take over the middle. However, that would be good for the country, since the radical leftists would be out of power for good.


18 posted on 12/10/2004 9:51:31 AM PST by expatpat
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To: ken5050

Interesting theory. But will his tactic work? Hitlery may already have it sewn up, especially if she gets Icky in as DNC chairman.


19 posted on 12/10/2004 9:54:03 AM PST by expatpat
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To: JFK_Lib
A split in the Dim party is necessary for conservatives to gain. As it is now, libertarians, repubs, and cons have to band together to defeat those miserable dims.

With a split dim party then we could get the best from the 3 more right thinking sides.

IMHO it would be nice to have the dims split into at least 9 different partys.
They may include:
Gay&Lesbian Socialists
Gay&Lesbian Communists
Afro-Latino Socialists
Afro-Latino Communists
(the above could become 8 partys (or even parties))
UnionThugs/Gubmint Workers Party
AnimalRightsNow/Vegan Party(no greens allowed, animals need to eat their greens)
ConservativeDemocrats (gonna be a small party)
Bi-CoastalMedia&Entertainment Party (they'll throw the best parties)
EastCoastSeniorSocialists/Communists for Youths

I'm sure I'm missing a lot of others, feel free to add.

How can the demise of the most destructive political party be a bad thing? Let them go the way of the Bullmoose, Whigs and Torys.

The best thing out of this is that Americans need to hear what these whackos really think and believe. Right now they can hide behind the lie presented by the party and media that they are really mainstream.
20 posted on 12/10/2004 1:55:32 PM PST by TLOne (All the terrorists want is for us to bow and worship their god. Oh, and let them rule.)
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