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Hannity sees the light-calls for pulling kids out of government schools.
fox news-hannity and combs | 12/09/04 | self

Posted on 12/09/2004 6:49:31 PM PST by mysonsfuture

On Hannity and Combs, Sean responded to the liberals keeping the declaration of independence out of the schools, by calling for parents to take thier kids out of government schools. Home school bump.


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To: mysonsfuture

Another good reason to pull your kids out. A girl is sexually assaulted in school, and she gets punished. The local district attorney writes to the school and asks them to rectify the situation in a sharply worded letter. They don't. The girl attaches a letter, explaining her suspension on her college application.

http://www.jsonline.com/news/metro/dec04/282822.asp

It really is time to pull them out folks.


121 posted on 12/10/2004 5:37:34 AM PST by ladylib ("Marc Tucker Letter to Hillary Clinton" says it all.)
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To: durasell

The typical Hillary Clinton argument. Parents are too stupid to make educational choices for their children according to Hillary.

Wicca is a religion recognized by the federal government, therefore, Wiccan schools could use vouchers. There are Islamic schools that are allowed to operate in my state (one is a couple of towns away from me). I imagine vouchers could be used for those students also as long as the schools don't break any laws.


122 posted on 12/10/2004 5:42:13 AM PST by ladylib ("Marc Tucker Letter to Hillary Clinton" says it all.)
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To: bahblahbah

Think of all the churches with empty classrooms during the week.


123 posted on 12/10/2004 5:47:19 AM PST by ladylib ("Marc Tucker Letter to Hillary Clinton" says it all.)
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To: latina4dubya

Wow...the kids and I just did something last month on how we got the Scripture...and studied Huss and Wycliffe and Henry VIII. We also did a huge study on William Wallace, as DH and I believe that the ideas for independence in Scotland coupled with the idea of religious freedom really influenced the founding of the United States.

Maybe we should arrange marriages later in life...LOL


124 posted on 12/10/2004 5:49:05 AM PST by andie74 (Proud Resident of Fly-Over Country)
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To: mysonsfuture

Bump for an algebra tutor!


125 posted on 12/10/2004 5:49:17 AM PST by tutstar ( <{{--->< http://ripe4change.4-all.org Violations of Florida Statutes ongoing!)
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To: Gabz
I so often feel like I am so alone in that sentiment here.

I understand how you feel. That's why I try to post something positive about my daughter's school experience whenever I can.

I bet that part of the reason why you and I are pleased with our children's schools is because we live in VA. Most of my daughter's teachers have been conservative and there are are a lot of male, ex-military teachers in my area.

126 posted on 12/10/2004 5:57:35 AM PST by SilentServiceCPOWife (In the smiling twilight of the new political morning, the unwashed told their betters to shove it.)
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To: Prime Choice

No, the voucher program, while I like the concept of school choice... is at the end of the day NOT a solution. ALl that will happen is that private schools that take the vouchers will end up having the government use that funding source as a backdoor to destroy and corrupt their educational freedom as well.

You want your kid educated properly, YOU, not the government must take responsibility for it. Find a good private school and send your kid to it, or home school. Yes it will cost you money, but so be it. No better investment out there.

Public schools are the equivalent of the Public Defender... everyone that is breathing knows that a public defender is nowhere near as capable as a private lawyer... not even liberals will try to argue that they are. However for some reason when it comes to public education they want folks to believe the public schools are great, when in fact they are in general the worst option out there.

I think we will and should always have public schools, however they should only be used as the last resort for your kids education (In most places.. yes wealthy neighborhoods with homogeneous populations can and often do have exemplary public schools, but they are the exeception) NOT the first.


127 posted on 12/10/2004 5:58:28 AM PST by HamiltonJay ("You cannot strengthen the weak by weakening the strong.")
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To: carl in alaska
Until you've worked a tough coporate job like being a management consultant or a high-tech engineer in a demanding company, you don't know what a tough job is.

Whenever somebody complains about how hard their job is, I just say, "Beats a two-week jury trial."

128 posted on 12/10/2004 6:00:35 AM PST by AnAmericanMother (. . . Ministrix of ye Chace (recess appointment), TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary . . .)
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To: durasell
Not to be a kill joy, but:

What happens when the first Wiccan school opens via voucher system or the first string of Fundie Islamic schools?

Exactly. He who pays the piper calls the tune. If I plant my feet under the State's table, I have no right to complain about the menu. What it feeds me I must swallow.

Control always follows "free" government money. An Alaskan subsidy for home schooling got the camel's nose under the tent by offering a "free" computer. Three years later, the camel was in the tent, controlling the curriculum.

129 posted on 12/10/2004 6:06:40 AM PST by TomSmedley (Calvinist, optimist, home schooling dad, exuberant husband, technical writer)
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To: montanajoe
The problem I have is they are not "government" schools they are "our" schools.

No, they are not our schools, because we do not pay for them. The governments pay for them using money confiscated by force and threat of force from us. Insert the gun between giver and reciever, and fraternal bonds instantly disolve.

How we educate our kids is everyones concern. Unless everyone is well (ok somewhat)educated this society is lost...

What you mean "we" paleface? What you mean "our"? For the record, the first person plural is a 20th century euphemism for raw statism.

130 posted on 12/10/2004 6:11:06 AM PST by TomSmedley (Calvinist, optimist, home schooling dad, exuberant husband, technical writer)
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To: Echo Talon
While I agree that we must get our children out of the government schools I would urge that caution be used in accepting vouchers/choice as the answer. If the voucher is still US TAX dollars you remain under the control of the government system. Tax credits carry the same caution. Only a tax "cut" gives you the freedom to invest in a private institution. There must be no money ties to the government system that you are exiting that will continue to control your child or jeopardize the "Independence" of the institution you choose to attend.
131 posted on 12/10/2004 6:11:26 AM PST by codder too
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To: codder too
I see your concern, legislation needs to be drawn up... some form of protection to private institutions(schools in this case) protecting them from government influence... This legislation would need to be "smart" and would require alot of foresight before being passed, lots of issues would need to be hashed out, but could be achieved if the democrats didn't act like children themselves.
132 posted on 12/10/2004 6:32:38 AM PST by Echo Talon
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To: Hi Heels

Move to Alabama.I pay $325 per month for my daughter to go to private school.Great education and a world of difference from the public school she attended.We do without a few things in order to pay it,but I see it as an investment.


133 posted on 12/10/2004 6:38:53 AM PST by quack
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To: mysonsfuture
My 3 yr. old boy will never set foot in a public school. I spent the majority of my life in Catholic schools. I did however, spend 8-10 grade in a NY Public High School and literally had over one hundred fights in those 3 years. I never started any, but I never backed down either. To this day, I am still haunted by the damage I inflicted- amazingly w/out repercussions. At times, the only thing that saved me from some of the race riots was that I was on the football and baseball teams and many of my black teammates would pull me out or back me up. To this day, I am grateful for their camaraderie.

Maybe it toughened me up, maybe it damaged me internally-I don't know. What I do know is my son won't have to face that issue.

134 posted on 12/10/2004 6:48:02 AM PST by MattinNJ (Only Arnold would have the stones to say Nixon was the reason he was a Republican.)
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To: ladylib
A girl is sexually assaulted in school, and she gets punished.

what i don't understand is how the mother could allow her daughter to continuing going to the school after the incident... i hear it all the time... a child is bullied year after year... the schools do nothing about it... the victim's parents keep sending him back... and in one case, the victim kills himself in front of his classmates and teacher... and now his grieving mother says, "i wish i would have taken him out of there."

it's so sad that she did not see that as an option before this tragedy played out... this was her baby, and she couldn't see that she had choices... it's amazing how we automatically think, "my child is five, he must go to school." and for most people, that means public school... government school.

135 posted on 12/10/2004 10:01:45 AM PST by latina4dubya
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To: latina4dubya

There was a case in my state in an inner-city school (the worst place in the country to raise a kid according to the latest survey) where a bunch of girls were actually taken into the boys' locker room because they were causing trouble in a gym class and assaulted by the boys.

The principal did not report it to the police. One girl refused to go back to school and was brought up on truancy charges. She was fortunate enough to get a scholarship to a Catholic elementary school. The mother is suing the school. I don't know what is happening to the principal.


136 posted on 12/10/2004 10:12:55 AM PST by ladylib ("Marc Tucker Letter to Hillary Clinton" says it all.)
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To: Gabz
it seems that the closer to the city one is the more they hate the public school system - JMO.

we've lived in the city, the suburbs, and now in the country... we despise public education in general... one of the things i don't like about public education is that it's conveyor belt education... even the good public schools offer a "one size fits all" education... for me, that's just not enough...

now i know there are a lot of parents who supplement their children's public education with extra-curricular activities and projects (athletics, the arts, family field trips, lots of reading, Bible studies, etc.) and i admire those who do this... too bad more parents do not... on top of all that, as a Christian, i could not send my children to public school... (where there is no such thing as being "neutral" on matters of religion.)

137 posted on 12/10/2004 10:20:20 AM PST by latina4dubya
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To: andie74
Wow...the kids and I just did something last month on how we got the Scripture...and studied Huss and Wycliffe and Henry VIII.

i just introduced my boys to Henry VIII last week! we're studying Shakespeare in literature, so i was setting up the scene of Shakespeare's England... so we covered Henry VIII, Edward, Mary and Elizabeth... plus we've been covering a lot of the struggles between the Roman Catholics and the "Protestors" in history... do you use the "classical education" method?

p.s.--lately, it seems that everytime we read a story, the "Black Plague" is mentioned, and my kids eyes just light up because they recognize it...

138 posted on 12/10/2004 10:32:07 AM PST by latina4dubya
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To: Prime Choice
The real solution to this mess is the school voucher system. It's high time that parents who can't afford to homeschool were able to pull their kids out of the anti-American, pro-socialist cesspools and place the kids in schools that aren't run by the neo-socialist, pro-Islamofascist, anti-Christian jackasses.

Vouchers require socialist tax collection. In a non-compulsory system, the few parents that can't afford phonics classes would get covered by charity.

And don't forget that vouchers will get paid to anti-Christian Islamic madrassas...

139 posted on 12/10/2004 1:10:03 PM PST by secretagent
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To: writer33
It's got to be the voucher system to allow parents more choices than the United Socialist School System Republic: USSR!

Better: complete separation of school and State.

140 posted on 12/10/2004 1:11:16 PM PST by secretagent
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