Posted on 12/09/2004 6:49:31 PM PST by mysonsfuture
On Hannity and Combs, Sean responded to the liberals keeping the declaration of independence out of the schools, by calling for parents to take thier kids out of government schools. Home school bump.
I'd love to see him on, but for some reason I think Gatto is better on radio.
No slam on Sean, but all TV shows seem to be turning into 2 solid minutes of ranting interrupted buy 5 solid minutes of commercials, repeat this till midnight. Not a forum for reasoned discussion.
Still, I'd take anything if it's jump start a serious discussion on education in America
I don't know what the answer is, but your post cracked me up. Slacker witches!
"Hey, who is going to clean the cauldron?"
"Not me, I cleaned it last time."
"Yo, didn't you make the veggie lasagna in it, so it's your turn..."
The idea -- the thing that horrifies me -- is that the gov't may end up funding genuinely anti-American schools or that some of those funds might be used against us.
But the costuming would be great...... HAHhahahaha....
Call me a snob, but I like the fact that the parents at my daughter's school are paying through the nose to send their kids there. We sacrifice alot in order to be able to do it and I like the fact that the other parents are doing the same. It makes me think that they actually care about how that money is spent and how their kids are doing.
Yes, the govt school generally suck, but so do alot of the parents! Schools are not babysitters.
Ok. You're a snob. /jkg. My daughter attended private school for two years before I just could not afford it anymore. $800 a month is simply out of my league. I'm a single mom with a dead beat ex husband slash dad. And I pay taxes too. But I will agree. Respect for education begins at home. So does moral education. BUT I'm NOT getting what I DO pay for. And YOU, you're really getting ripped off. Doesn't it just grind on you?
I haven't read through the entire thread yet, I do intend to do so, but Sean Hannity called for the abolishment of government schools, which is very different than pulling kids out of them.
I will be awaiting the flames in the morning for pointing that discrepancy out, after I see my daughter off to her government school.
A government school, I might add, that is having a Christmas party, where she learned a song this week about the Baby Jesus, where she gets a Christmas vacation........Unusual, probably, but these schools and districts do exist and so I wish all you hate-everything-about-government-schools would at least acknowlege it. And stop dumping on those of us who choose, YES choose, to use the public school system.
If they do a way with public schools, $800 a month for a decent private school is gonna seem like a bargain.
"A government school, I might add, that is having a Christmas party, where she learned a song this week about the Baby Jesus, where she gets a Christmas vacation........Unusual, probably, but these schools and districts do exist and so I wish all you hate-everything-about-government-schools would at least acknowlege it. And stop dumping on those of us who choose, YES choose, to use the public school system."
I'm in complete agreement. The problem is where you're living it's not a problem. In these cities it's a big, big, big, big, big, big problem. And you can't arbitrarily pick and choose schools. You either reform it nationwide or you let it continue to decay in these cities where liberalism profligates itself so effectively.
As you are a parent, you have that choice of the school system. But for these parents that their children must learn Islam in order to advance in their grades, have no choice because they can't afford to do anything else. How would you feel if it was your child being forced to learn Islam in order to advance? That's the sad state of affairs of schools in San Francisco.
Here's another one: How would you feel if your child was subjected to books like I Have Two Mommies or I Have Two Daddys. It's happening in America. Something has to be done to loosen the stranglehold of liberalism on our public education system.
The best education I ever received was from a conservative Economics professor in college once. Best class I ever took. He made us work our butts off, but I'm a strict Supply side man because of it, and a firm believer in Reaganomics. Your school is rare. I mean it.
Thank you - I so often feel like I am so alone in that sentiment here.
Mailroom clerks, 4 single mothers, no support, make $8.50 per hour. Average rent on a one bedroom apt. here is $1000 per month. *shrug* Do the math. I'm lucky. I'm not a mailroom clerk. But $800 a month? Nope. No can do and eat. That's just the truth of it.
Separation of school and state BUMP!
You're right, where I'm living it is not a problem - why do you think I CHOSE to move here? This district actually expects input and participation. Is it old fashioned, or the wave of the future? I see it as the latter.
I disagree with you that in the cities there are no choices. I grew up in NYC and in the 70s when I was heading for High school there were things called "variances" for students to attend a HS that was not the school you address would otherwise force you to attend.
I have no sympathy for those parents with children in a school that is forcing them to learn anything about Islam to advance - it means they have not paid attention and have let the school take over. The parents, not the schools are to blame here. My daughter is only in 1st grade and I've expressed my dislike of of somethings already.
I have no intention of my daughter being subjected to books about 2 mommies or 2 daddies - it just won't happen.
I spent 12 years in Catholic schools and when I look back on it I know that half the nuns would be appalled that when I registered to vote I registered as a Republican, in NYC.
You know how much I love you, my FRiend - but the problems with the public school systems have nothing to do with the unions - the problems have everything to do with the lack of parental participation which has allowed the union thugs to take over.
which is utterly ridiculous.
The public schools can be fixed - if the parents are willing to put in any effort.
Thank you for saying this and being there for the proof of what I have been trying to bring across for ages.
But most importantly, thank you for caring for the children.
I so totally agree with you. When we put our townhouse on the market we listed it as a starter/retirement home or investment property. I refused to put anything in the listing about the school district, because the district was so bad.
sounds a lot like my day... except we're studying the Middle Ages--John Wycliff and Jon Huss this week... my kids are four and eight... we love our homeschool lifestyle and wouldn't choose to live any other way... people need to start viewing homeschooling as a true option... they need to at least seriously consider it...
IMO- we all benefit from all children getting a good education. We needs lots of educated folks in this country to do many different things- so I think it is our responsibility,as Americans, to pay taxes for education which benefits all people.
I think this is one of places where it is our duty to offer a fair playing feild for all citizens. I think it is the cornerstone to the American dream. I do not think we need to pay at the rate we are paying of course!
But I think we all need to pay some money into the system for purpose of educating the children- whether we use the schools personally or not.
Public education is not for me or my family- and my children will get an outstanding education for about $500 year. But for me it is not the money. I could choose private school- but I choose homeschooling. I have many choices. I wish the other parents ,who are dedicated to their children ,had similar choices for their children.
But I also have resources available to me that families in the inner city do not have, for example. AND IMO- those children are just as deserving as a good education- and we need them to have some skills and abilities just as much as we need my children to have skills and abilities.
I agree with you that most of those kids are not getting what they deserve in the current system. HOw to change that? I think vouchers- although I admit there are some pitfalls to that situation as well.
For the corruption and decay of our overall public education system- I blame the NEA and those who support the NEA.
When we can get rid of them the good schools will get better and the bad schools will be overhauled!
This is because we are not willing to sacrifice our children at the altar of the NEA. Sure, I work for changes in public education, but I am not going to let my kids be influenced by the garbage until things are changed.
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