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Democratic soul-searching
The Washington Times ^ | December 9, 2004 | Donald Lambro

Posted on 12/09/2004 5:11:18 PM PST by neverdem


The Washington Times
www.washingtontimes.com

Democratic soul-searching

By Donald Lambro
Published December 9, 2004

The Democratic governors were in town the other day to talk about why Democrats keep losing presidential elections and what can be done to stop their party's political erosion.


    Ironically, one of their complaints was that their party has become too Washington-fixated, though this is where they decided to hold their daylong strategy sessions. But this is where the national news media is, and they were looking for some attention and knew they wouldn't get it if they met in Altoona or Cleveland.


    Even so, many of them, from New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson to Gov. Edward G. Rendell of Pennsylvania, complained that their party's leadership has become trapped in a Washington mindset and culture that has lost touch with its base in the real world. Mr. Rendell said party leaders even talk in a kind of "Washingtonese" that few Democrats at the local and state levels understand, and that does not connect with the bedrock values of ordinary people.


    Others, such as Michigan Gov. Jennifer Granholm, want a new party spokesperson who can talk about such subjects as faith and values. Some said they want a party agenda that is "more centrist" and, thus, much less liberal.


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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: District of Columbia; US: Michigan; US: New Mexico; US: Pennsylvania; US: Vermont
KEYWORDS: democraticparty; democrats; kerrydefeat; lambro; lostdems; mediawingofthednc; napalminthemorning; partyofthehindparts; rathergate
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1 posted on 12/09/2004 5:11:19 PM PST by neverdem
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To: neverdem
Democrats confuse soul-searching with navel gazing...

It just isn't the same thing.

2 posted on 12/09/2004 5:13:21 PM PST by weenie ("A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants." -- Churchill)
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To: neverdem

All that is true, but the Democrats road to healing will begin when they stop being afraid of bleeding voters on the Green Left and start worrying about getting the Reagan Democrats back in the fold. Words aren't going to make any difference - some public excommunications might. ;)


3 posted on 12/09/2004 5:13:53 PM PST by Mr. Jeeves
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To: neverdem

Don't they need souls before they can search them???


4 posted on 12/09/2004 5:14:12 PM PST by Keith in Iowa (Democrats: Tolerant of all people and opinions. Except me & mine - Conservative, Christian.)
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To: Keith in Iowa

"Others, such as Michigan Gov. Jennifer Granholm, want a new party spokesperson who can talk about such subjects as faith and values."

Sounds like they are going to trot out the Revs. Jackson and Sharpton again...Yeah! Thats the Ticket!!!


5 posted on 12/09/2004 5:16:50 PM PST by shubi (Peace through superior firepower.)
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To: neverdem
Can't find what you never had.

"Nope! Not up here!"

6 posted on 12/09/2004 5:19:16 PM PST by airborne (God bless and keep our fallen heroes.)
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To: neverdem

Democrat soul searching. Isn't that some kind of oxy-moron?


7 posted on 12/09/2004 5:20:10 PM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: airborne

Snicker, chortle and GUFFAW!!!!!!! I literally laughed out loud at this picture.

Dems talk to themselves in a echo-chamber. Their arguments resonate with each other...so they convince themselves that they must be right. Why break up their whiny little pity party? I say let them talk to one another til the cows come home. Convince them to move farther to the left...yeah, that's the ticket.


8 posted on 12/09/2004 5:40:56 PM PST by Conservative Goddess (Veritas vos Liberabit, in Vino, Veritas....QED, Vino vos Liberabit)
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To: neverdem
The RATs have to philosophically embrace Harry Truman instead of Karl Marx. The further left they go, the more mired in the crap they become. Values....Rat values.....like what? The bastards are hypocrits. On the one hand they bitch and moan about how the Repubos cut taxes for the rich, and on the other hand they take millions from capitalists like Soros and millions from the Hollywood smut industry; they claim to speak for "oppressed minorities" yet they express disdain for minority figures who have excelled (in spite of having to shoulder the label of "victim" foisted upon them by RATs) like Justice Thomas, like Condi Rice, like Colin Powell. And who do they elevate to leadership positions in Congress? That lunatic Nancy Pelosi and now the Senator from the Asylum, Harry Reid. What do you call RATs moving to the center? Lying scumbag commie vermin.

What they mean is, "Let's try to fool the great unwashed red-staters by making it appear we really are moderates. Then, once we get back to power, we'll forward the Communist Agenda once again." Right. Like all rational adults in the US want unlimited baby killing, faggot marriage pushed up our...., a total ban on the means of self defense, a 90% tax rate, a completely open southern border, legal documents (driver's licenses for thieves from Mexico) granted to those who break the laws, a completely destroyed military structure, the transfer of national sovereignty to the UN, enviro-nut laws that hamstring the US economy so that it falls into a permanent recession, a Supreme Court (and a Federal Judiciary) that interprets the Constitution as a "living document", hate crime laws that make owning a Bible a crime, a public school system that teachs the joys of Islam and oral sex (what a juxtaposition!), while failing to teach basic reading, science and math skills. No, what the RATs want is a society made up of victims, losers, whiners, sociopaths, junkies, a sheep - all under the control of the ruling elite - them and guys like Michael Moore.

9 posted on 12/09/2004 5:43:47 PM PST by 45Auto (Big holes are (almost) always better.)
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To: 45Auto

If the dems weren't so clueless about national security, they could probably pass more of their agenda. With Hillary talking about border security, the pubbies better watch out.


10 posted on 12/09/2004 5:59:28 PM PST by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: neverdem

The demwits are out of the White House for about 30 years so they have time to think about where they screwed up.


11 posted on 12/09/2004 6:04:15 PM PST by jocko12
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To: 45Auto
The further left they go, the more mired in the crap they become. Values....Rat values.....like what? The bastards are hypocrits.

You hit this one, spot on. I was discussing this with my buddy at work yesterday, he's the only teacher at my school with whom I can identify. He's a retired Airborne Ranger with twelve years in a ranger battalion. Anyway, we heard that Dean has suggested that the RATS not cede the south or the far west to the 'pubbies. That they should aggressively court the south and west. We agree, bring it on! C'mon down heah and tell us GOD FEARIN' folks how you want to abort our youngin's as they're still being birthed and wanna take ALL our guns away and allow the homosexuals to deny the word of God and marry each other and then adopt a child...why SURE that'll fly just fine in these parts!

12 posted on 12/09/2004 6:23:41 PM PST by ExSoldier (Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb voting on dinner. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.)
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To: neverdem

Most people assume they are searching their soul, actually they are searching FOR their soul. A very hard thing to find once you have sold it.


13 posted on 12/09/2004 10:01:30 PM PST by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: American in Israel
Take a cup of Romanticism and blend in a tablespoon each of Freud, Marx and Darwin, and you've got the gimmicrat upper classes. Take a bit of rock and roll and mix in some pieces of illicit sex and marijuana, and you've got the dirt gimmicrat, if you will. These subhumans don't just appear, but there is a template involved.
14 posted on 12/09/2004 10:31:31 PM PST by ashtanga
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To: ashtanga

Well said.


15 posted on 12/09/2004 11:04:04 PM PST by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: neverdem

The irony, wasted on the dems, is that they need to hold a conference to find out who they are.


16 posted on 12/10/2004 4:12:39 AM PST by Rudder
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To: 45Auto

AMEN!


17 posted on 12/10/2004 5:32:18 AM PST by Conservative Goddess (Veritas vos Liberabit, in Vino, Veritas....QED, Vino vos Liberabit)
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To: neverdem

Can someone explain to me how "you" talk about Faith and Values,........when you have NONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


18 posted on 12/10/2004 5:34:20 AM PST by Doc Savage (...because they stand on a wall, and they say nothing is going to hurt you tonight, not on my watch!)
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To: Rudder
The RATs know very well "who they are"; they are just in a psycho-pathological sense of denial about it. The one thing that I think has fueled the RAT party shift to the left over the last 40 years is massive drug use. They suffer from drug-induced delusional thinking. (Think about old bug eyes, Nancy Pelosi) Its the old mantra of "If I thought of it, it must be true." Consequently, they cling to the insanity that "Communism will work if its done right." They refuse to see that it has been done right and that it is a dismal and total failure. And on the road to failure not one communist society has failed to murder a large percentage of its own citizens in a futile attempt to "get it right." They cannot see what is before their very eyes: today's "living laboratory" of Marxian Paradise: Zimbabwe.
19 posted on 12/10/2004 1:29:06 PM PST by 45Auto (Big holes are (almost) always better.)
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To: 45Auto

That smoked! Okay, bad choice of euphemism. Anyway, thanks!


20 posted on 12/11/2004 9:59:46 PM PST by SunkenCiv ("All I have seen teaches me trust the Creator for all I have not seen." -- Emerson)
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