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Illicit cameraphone clicks could mean jail for peeping Toms
AP ^ | 12/9/4 | JESSE J. HOLLAND

Posted on 12/09/2004 3:27:33 PM PST by SmithL

WASHINGTON -- Camera phones may make great Christmas gifts, but people better not use them for peeping-Tom photos on federal property.

In one of its last moves of the year, Congress passed a bill that would levy heavy fines and prison time for anyone who sneaks photos or videos of people in various stages of undress, a problem lawmakers and activists called the new frontier of stalking.

While camera phone voyeurism probably won't be high on the list of federal crimes the FBI and other federal agencies pursue, "at least in theory there is now federal protection available so people can't unknowingly have their private parts photographed, downloaded and transmitted around the world," said Hanan B. Kolko, a New York civil liberties lawyer.

The bill, which President Bush is expected to sign, would make it a crime to videotape or photograph the naked or underwear-covered private parts of a person without consent when the person has a reasonable expectation of privacy. Conviction could lead to a fine of not more than $100,000 or imprisonment for up to one year, or both.

The measure got voice vote approval in both chambers of Congress -- the House on Sept. 21 and the Senate on Tuesday.

The legislation would apply only in federal jurisdictions, such as federal buildings, national parks or military bases, but it carves out exceptions for law enforcement, intelligence and prison work.

(Excerpt) Read more at sfgate.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: cameraphone
Can you SEE me now?
1 posted on 12/09/2004 3:27:35 PM PST by SmithL
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To: Dianna

UH OH.


2 posted on 12/09/2004 3:28:20 PM PST by Howlin (W, Still the President)
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To: SmithL

The bill should be entitled the -
"Sandy Burgler Bill!"


3 posted on 12/09/2004 3:28:48 PM PST by aShepard
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To: All

While I am against invading people's privacy, I don't see how anyone can expect any privacy if they're naked in public.


4 posted on 12/09/2004 3:31:20 PM PST by SmithL (People who are willing to accept everything, don't believe in anything.)
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To: SmithL
If camera phones are now considerd an invasion of privacy, then I want every gaddamned politician who authorized red light cameras arrested, and the key thrown away.


5 posted on 12/09/2004 3:34:40 PM PST by Viking2002 (Taglines? Vikings don't need no steenkin' taglines..............)
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To: SmithL
While I am against invading people's privacy, I don't see how anyone can expect any privacy if they're naked in public.

Then you shouldn't mind at all if a perp uses a camera phone to take pictures under your daughters dress while she is talking to one of her girlfriends. The camera phone is small, and fairly easily hidden. The problems aren't with photographing people who are naked in public; the problem is with people who lay the phone on the floor, under a woman wearing a dress; or taking a shot down the front of a dress.

I think the rule is "if it's in plain sight, it's not private." However, a LOT of these camera phones have taken pictures while under the table, or from a vantage point well below the expected limit. Shall we say that the view of a woman in a mini-skirt from a 5-6 foot tall man far different than the view of the same mini-skirt from a distance of 2 feet from the floor.

6 posted on 12/09/2004 3:53:27 PM PST by Hodar (With Rights, comes Responsibilities. Don't assume one, without assuming the other.)
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To: Hodar
Then you shouldn't mind at all if a perp uses a camera phone to take pictures under your daughters dress while she is talking to one of her girlfriends.

HUH?

That sure sounds like invading someone's privacy to me.

7 posted on 12/09/2004 4:45:52 PM PST by SmithL (People who are willing to accept everything, don't believe in anything.)
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To: SmithL
Let's get out a dusty old unread document. Hmmm.

We the people of the United States, in order to form a more perfect union....

...All legislative powers herein granted shall be vested in a Congress of the ...

...The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes, duties, imposts and excises...

...No law, varying the compensation for the services of the Senators and Representatives, shall take effect, until an election of Representatives shall have intervened.

Nope, don't see anything in the Constitution which would give Congress this power. Oh, well, back into the junk draw those old papers go.

8 posted on 12/09/2004 5:04:46 PM PST by KarlInOhio (In a just world, Arafat would have died at the end of a rope.)
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To: SmithL
That sure sounds like invading someone's privacy to me.

And THAT is exactly what these phones have been used for. Hence, we now have a new felony (which I personally think is overkill) on the books.

I do feel sympathy for the victim, who has a picture taken either without their knowledge, or without their consent. However, a FELONY is a bit harsh for a rude/stupid action neither threatens life nor limb. Taking a picture of someone's boob now ranks up there with rape, arson, extortion, armed burglary, manslaughter, assault with intent to kill and a host of other heinous crimes. This is a bit of overkill.

9 posted on 12/09/2004 7:11:41 PM PST by Hodar (With Rights, comes Responsibilities. Don't assume one, without assuming the other.)
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To: SmithL

If anyone wants to photograph my hairy a$$ what they wind up seeing should be punishment enough ;-)


10 posted on 12/09/2004 7:28:34 PM PST by festus (The constitution may be flawed but its a whole lot better than what we have now !)
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To: festus

Now there's a mental picture I wouldn't want to dwell on.


11 posted on 12/09/2004 8:02:55 PM PST by SmithL (People who are willing to accept everything, don't believe in anything.)
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