[Lindykim]

Pornography appeals only to our darkest, most base appetites. There is nothing 'good' about it. It cannot be said of it that it promotes dignity, honor, trustworthiness, selfcontrol, selfrespect, decency, fidelity, commitment, or any other of the virtues. It promotes and breeds everything ugly, dark, vile, and foul. Every user of it regresses to the cellar by becoming a 'peeping tom', and that is just the beginnng of the slide downwards.

[Lindykim]

ping

[Pyro7480]

As much as drug addiction and alcoholism is spoken of from both the Left and the Right, another addiction that is never spoken of is sexaholism. There are people who are addicted to sexual deviant behavior, such as pornography, adultery, homosexuality, etc. There is actually a support group, fashioned along the lines of AA, called Sexaholics Anonymous.

All I have to say is prepared to be flamed. There a plenty of people on FR who are unsympathetic with this issue.

[Moleman]

Fortunately however, it is protected under the constitution.

[Cogadh na Sith]

"Cheri Yecke"? Unfortunate name....

*Snicker*

[escapefromboston]

porno ping

[prairiebreeze]

bttt

[Chad Fairbanks]

Every user of it regresses to the cellar by becoming a 'peeping tom', and that is just the beginnng of the slide downwards.

If you say so. "every?" I'd LOVE to see statistics on that, because it would be a big surprise to me.

Note that I'm not flaming you, I'm just pointing out that by using such a broad brush by saying "EVERY" does nothing but weaken your case, makes you look like a shill, and will do nothing to garner you any support for your cause.

Enjoy!

[dascallie]

Agree 100%

But it will take those that so cherish their 24x7 access to such fare to rise above this sick addiction and aspire to something better, for all this to change...we are in dangerous, dehumanizing waters.

I recently saw a report that boys aged 9-14 that were exposed to the vicious and degrading porn so prevalent today had 80% less success with sustaining meaningful relationships with females...this is unraveling stuff.

How do we put this toothpaste back in the tube before we are a nation of souless sensation addicts--with women as the primary devalued, used and abused focus??

And this is NOT just the natural order of things.
It has become sheer hateful deviance.

[kanecorp]

i'd like to see the ratio of people who watch porn and don't turn criminal and those who watch porn and do.
I think this is kind of like a gun study. Showing kids are more violent with guns than not. I"d like to see that same stat for the gun kids. Know what i mean?

[bvw]

Reefer Madness covered it's "addiction" the same way. Over the top and around the bend. Porn is a big problem -- for damn sure. But it ain't the gate to murder and torture.

The callousness it takes to murder and torture is ceratinly helped developed by pornography. The same murderous callousness and intemperance can be developed in alternate ways -- meaness and cruelty is the main one, along with drunkeness and being a wastrel. The murderers that develop solely from porno addition -- they are rare, if at all.

Alchohol is still the main adjunct to murder.

[little jeremiah]

Moral Absolutes Ping.

Sometimes these pornography threads really get wild. I haven't read the article yet but want to ping it out while I have a minute. Have at it, if you feel so inclied.

Let me know if anyone wants on/off this pinglist.

[HenryLeeII]

This article is so bogus. Look at this claim: "Victoria's Secret is well known for its racy, soft-porn 'fashion show' where voluptuous young models strut the runways in revealing lingerie."

Now, anyone who's ever seen one of their models knows that they all look like emaciated malnourished heroin addicts. There is not one "voluptuous" feature about them, except maybe their botox-laden lips.

[Modernman]

The last Victoria's Secret "fashion show" aired on network television November 19, 2003. Dru was abducted three days later. Could it be that Alfonso Rodriguez, a convicted sex offender, watched the show and was propelled into Dr. Cline's fourth stage of sexual deviance? This is a question his judge and jury may consider.

I see. It wasn't his fault, Victoria's Secret made him do it. Rodriguez is therefore not responsible for his actions and should be set free.

[RebelBanker]

Using a character from a Rodgers & Hammerstein musical as an example? Shades of Dan Quayle's Murphy Browne gaffe!
Also, I would submit that associating pornography with some types of mental illnesses may be confusing cause with symptom. People who desire certain types of pornographic images may already have the deviant desires that the author attempts to blame on the images themselves.

The other open question is the definition of decency versus pornography. Remember, Muslim societies require women to be completely shrouded in burkas because the public display of any part of a woman is considered indecent. Where do we draw the line?

[dascallie]

Trying to get some people to wake up about the destructive efffects of porn is like trying to convince a junkie that he needs to kick his heroin.

This is a tremendous threat to all of us in more ways than concrete acts of violence.

Godless, soul-raping.

But don't bother the porn aficianado with all that--he's busy gorging himself.

[DTogo]

Regulating porn to the extent it is now (for adults only) is about as far as I'd like to see it regulated. While it certainly could be viewed as immoral or vile by some, others may enjoy it - by their lonesome or perhaps with a partner. Porn does not commit a crime anymore than guns commit a crime - people do. Banning it smacks of legislating morality.

This is not a flame, just a reasoned response.

[isom35]

isnt there a rule about porn threads requiring pics? maybe I'm confused.

[tutstar]

poing

[Melas]

You people never stop do you? Now it's a whacko theory that Victoria's Secret was the impetus that led to the death of a coed at the hands of a repeat sex offender. Blame anyone but the criminal I guess.

[najida]

The major grouse I hear from women about porn is it sets unrealistic expectations, perpetuates ridiculous myths and adds even more to sexual discontent between the genders.

IOW, a man hooked on porn will often be extremely disappointed in most, if not all of the RL females he encounters/marrys. And will usually take it out on her for being at fault (difficult, demanding, slow, imperfect), and then return to porn for satisfaction with the 'perfect, no fuss, no effort' woman.

Knowaddamean Vern?