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RUMSFELD SET UP; REPORTER PLANTED QUESTIONS WITH SOLDIER (DRUDGE SIREN)
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Posted on 12/09/2004 9:22:17 AM PST by Nascardude

Edited on 12/09/2004 10:05:10 AM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

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To: alnick

exploited the NG troops - actually I just found out said soldier was a guest on Al Franken's Air America and is an activist - he just need professional help in formulating a question that would wow the media. The soldier was not manipulted - he had his agenda - which is his right of course.


861 posted on 12/09/2004 5:08:20 PM PST by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting johnathangaltfilms.com and jihadwatch.org)
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To: ArmyBratproud
Over 19,300 humvees in Iraq.

5,910 uparmored

9,134 retrofitted

4,345 unarmored.

Mission: Keep troops alive

862 posted on 12/09/2004 5:08:50 PM PST by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: roses of sharon
I have read numerous articles about this since before the war, and have heard numerous soldiers, congressmen and Senators comment on it, as has Rumsfeld in many pressers, and Bush in the debates.

Well that settles it. Congressmen, Senators, Bush, Rumsfeld, and a media that at least one poster thinks isn't controlled enough by the government. Boy-o you've got all the facts don't you? I bow to your superior position. Surely, I must be wrong to not base my opinion on statements given by politicians and instead choose to read articles on a worldwide basis and views from others that don't base their entire lives on knowing what to say to stay in positions of power

863 posted on 12/09/2004 5:10:55 PM PST by billbears (Deo Vindice)
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To: faithincowboys
Actually, the troops did cheer the question.

I figured that was painfully clear to all.

I was wrong.

864 posted on 12/09/2004 5:10:59 PM PST by Joe Hadenuf (I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
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To: txradioguy
"Yeah the two 'escorts' this guy Pitts manipulated into taking him to the meeting should have been with the rest of their unit preparing and doing their final checks and preparations for their move into Iraq...not escorting some schlub from the Chattanooga paper so he could look good when he pulled a "gotcha" on the SecDef. This guy pulled these soldiers away from their main mission in life right now...who knows whether down the line his political agenda will cost a soldier his life."

Proving once again that Pitts hates our soldiers and could care less what consequenses THEY pay for HIS actions. Neither he nor his publisher give a wet slap what quality armor the soldiers have or what questions their family want answered.

No doubt if any routine disciplinary action is taken for insubordination, Pitts has a plan to cash in on that too.

865 posted on 12/09/2004 5:12:11 PM PST by cake_crumb (Goal of the Left="One Wing to Rule Them all and to the Dark Side Bind Them")
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To: faithincowboys

"The Humvee thing should be addressed." It's being addressed as best as it can. As I said there is only one plant doing the work of up-armoring the Hummers. We need more plants to do the work. We need more soldiers to fill those vehicles.

" It's a tough order to ask Bush to undo all the harm that was heaped on the militay in the 8 years of Clinton. It's hard to ask Bush to snap his hands and fix it all, but it is legit to say, "You could have done a better job fixing the damage Clinton created."

How much of an increase in spending for this stuff do you think the last Congress would have passed given the deliberate stalling of any and all legislature in the Senate?

As much as it stinks politics played a lot into this over the last 4 years. Trying to get fixed and upgraded what needs to be fixed and upgraded during war is akin to trying tair up a flat tire while moving down the highway at 70 m.p.h. I think the full measure of what the Clintoon Pentagon wraught on me and my fellow soldiers has only come to light since 9/11.

It will take more than the 8 years of W to fix what was done. It's always easier to tear down than it is to build up.


866 posted on 12/09/2004 5:13:42 PM PST by txradioguy (HOOAH!!!...Not Just A Word...A Way Of Life!)
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To: faithincowboys
"Having said that, I think the public would be served well if the Media did a comprehensive look into this problem."

You know better than to think that. A comprehensive look into the problem will reveal murderous effeciency with which Clinton gutted our military...and the public will be told it's all Bush's fault. You know that.

867 posted on 12/09/2004 5:15:03 PM PST by cake_crumb (Goal of the Left="One Wing to Rule Them all and to the Dark Side Bind Them")
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To: Destro
exploited the NG troops - actually I just found out said soldier was a guest on Al Franken's Air America and is an activist - he just need professional help in formulating a question that would wow the media.

That's an interesting tidbit. Thanks.

868 posted on 12/09/2004 5:15:08 PM PST by alnick
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To: justshutupandtakeit

Kool-aid drinking Bush Bots are a bore


869 posted on 12/09/2004 5:15:19 PM PST by jpsb
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To: faithincowboys

"There were no spare parts, barely any ammo"
I remember that all too well.
My artillery unit was "S.O.L." if we broke anything.

And when we grumbled too loudly, some regulation was invented so that we coudln't 'question the commander in sink', er.. 'commander in chief'.
Anyone who dared utter against Clinton got an Article 15 and had some rather unpleasant experiences occur to their career.

We are trying to turn this about.
I wish it'd move quicker.
I am not in a position though to guess whether or not it could move quicker.
*sigh*


870 posted on 12/09/2004 5:15:25 PM PST by Darksheare (Hey! This troll tastes like Arugala! I HATE arugala!)
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To: txradioguy; Joe Hadenuf
(AP Video)

U.S. Troops Question Rumsfeld on Iraq

871 posted on 12/09/2004 5:15:47 PM PST by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: cake_crumb

Actually in an earlier post I put up...I pulled a quote from Pitts' editor PRAISING his work on the story.

No disciplinary action for this guy would seem to be forthcoming. Unfortuneately. If I'd been the Public Affairs Officer for the 278th...this guy would have been on the next plane OUT of Kuwait.


872 posted on 12/09/2004 5:16:36 PM PST by txradioguy (HOOAH!!!...Not Just A Word...A Way Of Life!)
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To: jpsb

"Kool-aid drinking Bush Bots are a bore"

Yes but they are far less annoying than hateful Trolls like yourself.


874 posted on 12/09/2004 5:18:43 PM PST by txradioguy (HOOAH!!!...Not Just A Word...A Way Of Life!)
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To: OXENinFLA
Up-Armored Vehicle Effort Progressing Full Steam Ahead By Donna Miles American Forces Press Service WASHINGTON, Oct. 29, 2004 — The assembly lines are moving 24/7 to keep up with the demand for up-armored vehicles in Iraq and for conversion kits to add extra protection to vehicles already there.

Thank you for that link.

875 posted on 12/09/2004 5:19:06 PM PST by alnick
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To: billbears

"Big difference in supporting the troops and the administration that sent them there bucko."

"Dissent is patriotic!"

Yeah junior, I've heard that before.
And considering your past posts on the subject, I highly doubt your honesty on supporting the troops.


876 posted on 12/09/2004 5:19:12 PM PST by Darksheare (Hey! This troll tastes like Arugala! I HATE arugala!)
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To: jpsb

"Yea, now the troops in the field are all part of the anti-bush plane huh? Go drink some more kool-aid fool."


Take a hike Moby.


877 posted on 12/09/2004 5:20:11 PM PST by txradioguy (HOOAH!!!...Not Just A Word...A Way Of Life!)
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To: billbears

""Dissent is patriotic!"


But undermining the troops in anyway you can is tratiorous.


Do your arms ever get tired holding up that 5th Column?


878 posted on 12/09/2004 5:21:50 PM PST by txradioguy (HOOAH!!!...Not Just A Word...A Way Of Life!)
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To: alnick

He was a guest on Air America before he shipped out - per Al Franken.


879 posted on 12/09/2004 5:21:53 PM PST by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting johnathangaltfilms.com and jihadwatch.org)
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To: Darksheare
"I seem to recall some buzzes about the Humvee being vulnerable."

Your memory is just fine. The Clinton administration quashed the concerns because they were all busily slashing funds to the military while ordering appointees to spend what little was left on black berets, made by child laborors in Chinese sweatshops, to boost moral by making all soldiers feel as good as the SpecOps who EARNED their berets. Oh, and so foreign dignitaries wouldn't feel uncomfortable being wined and dined on aircraft carriers or partying aboard nuclear subs. Just a few years later, the USS Cole was diverted from her flotilla in order to refuel at the Port of Aden due to a shortage of fittings used for oceanic refueling.

No, your memory is fine. My memory is just fine too...though perhaps tainted with bitterness after all these years.

880 posted on 12/09/2004 5:22:02 PM PST by cake_crumb (Goal of the Left="One Wing to Rule Them all and to the Dark Side Bind Them")
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