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The original article was obviously not in English but I wanted to keep the feel of it intact. I've included the translation of it in the body of the thread, obviously so it can be read in English. I was rather surprised about this, pleasantly so, in fact. It's something I wasn't sure I would see...ever, from anyone 'over there'. Here's a short bio on Mathias Döpfner: http://www.axelspringer.de/englisch/unterneh/inhalte/vorstand/lebenslauf/doepfner.htm
1 posted on 12/09/2004 7:54:21 AM PST by Rushgrrl
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Thanks Rushgrrl.


2 posted on 12/09/2004 7:59:23 AM PST by SunkenCiv ("All I have seen teaches me trust the Creator for all I have not seen." -- Emerson)
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Mega OUCH to the Euro's, by a Euro.. Its good to see that not all of Europe is ready to roll over...


3 posted on 12/09/2004 7:59:54 AM PST by Paradox (Occam was probably right.)
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Wow. I sure MSM will be all over this. Right?


4 posted on 12/09/2004 8:00:57 AM PST by mad puppy ( "He's with me!" And I'm with W.)
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"Many of you have in your veins Geman and Italian blood. But remember that these ancestors of yours so loved freedom that they gave up home and country to cross the ocean in search of liberty. The ancestors of the people we shall kill lacked the courage to make such a sacrifice and remained slaves." -- George S. Patton


5 posted on 12/09/2004 8:01:09 AM PST by 2banana (They want to die for Islam and we want to kill them)
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This guy will be dead in a few days.


6 posted on 12/09/2004 8:02:47 AM PST by Brilliant
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Very good news but I think Europe history of appeasement and ignoring growing dangers for the sake of material opportunities present a strong headwind to this thinking. Hope I'm wrong.
7 posted on 12/09/2004 8:03:20 AM PST by drt1
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Ping.


8 posted on 12/09/2004 8:03:29 AM PST by demlosers
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The good news is that, when the stuff hits the fan, America will no longer be there. Not my generation or the next, or my grandchildren, for sure.

Good luck.

10 posted on 12/09/2004 8:05:20 AM PST by Publius6961 (The most abundant things in the universe are hydrogen and stupidity.)
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I live in Europe and can only say he's spot on. You can't do anything good around here without some politically correct socialist appointed/subsidized bureaucrat saying that we gotta be progressive and we gotta get us some of that multicultural thing, whatever it is. I'd favor a full stop to islamic immigration for a period of at least 10 years and a closure of all mosques and islamic schools, immediately. But you try telling that to the entrenched socialist politicians here. The trouble is they all point to the 'dangers' of a new fascism whilst blatantly ignoring the fact that islamicism is fascism itself. The leftist extremists and islamofascists around here for years got away with almost everything whereas even if you are what they would see as a moderate conservatism odds are that accusations of being a nazi will probably have been levelled at you. Around where I live, and my family, friends, acquaintances, colleagues, if we were to have a vote, we'd vote islam out of our society and follow up by deeds, but the politicians here in Holland, and in most parts of the rest of Europe seem to have made appeasement a continent wide sport.


11 posted on 12/09/2004 8:06:08 AM PST by William of Orange (No to socialism! No to communism! No to (islamo-)fascism!)
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Auchtung baby
12 posted on 12/09/2004 8:07:51 AM PST by SF Republican
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Danke sehr für deine Unterstützung, Mathias!!!!


13 posted on 12/09/2004 8:08:21 AM PST by stm
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Gerhard Schröder needs to be tossed out on his spineless socialist ass and this guy elected Chancellor!


14 posted on 12/09/2004 8:15:09 AM PST by SSG USA
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As usual, Europe is a day late and a Euro short.

The doo doo will have to really be in the fan before they do anything and when they do, it will be a half hearted effort with no teeth in it.

It's time for the free world (while we still are) to wake up to the threat of intolerant Islamofascism.


15 posted on 12/09/2004 8:16:48 AM PST by garyhope
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A Europe that talks of "root causes" of terrorism genuinely cannot understand non-materialist motivations. It cynically assumes that everyone has his price.

A Europe that will criminalize criticism of Islam is a Europe so terrified of people who are actually willing to kill or die for their beliefs that they are starting to accept sharia.


19 posted on 12/09/2004 8:23:05 AM PST by Sam the Sham
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This guy gets it.


21 posted on 12/09/2004 8:26:44 AM PST by NeoCaveman (Harry Reid is an embarrasment to the Senate)
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Way to go, Mathias Döpfner, you are telling it like it is.


23 posted on 12/09/2004 8:35:53 AM PST by jpsb
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They have TV pastors in Europe?


24 posted on 12/09/2004 8:39:16 AM PST by Tribune7
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Hey, this guy showed remarkable clarity...and courage. He gets it better than our own Dims. The scary part is we are only three percent away from following the Europeans to self-deluded appeasement suicide.


25 posted on 12/09/2004 8:46:44 AM PST by OhMike (He which hath no stomach to this fight, let him depart...we would not die in that man's company.)
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28 posted on 12/09/2004 9:16:01 AM PST by Nick Danger (Want some wood? How about some nice cars? Aircraft? Medicines? Whatcha want?)
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Well, for all the economic troubles and the rundown of the military and the general sense of malaise, the Germans are still the Germans, and it really won't do to provoke them back into a fighting mood. The islamists thought we were soft, too.


29 posted on 12/09/2004 9:16:40 AM PST by Billthedrill
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