[Salvation]

Bump for later.

[Viking2002]

'Bout damn time Dubya stepped into the fray and took a stand. This whole 'separation of church and state' insanity has got to be squelched now, and FOREVER. This country has allowed the heathens and malcontents of society WAY too much latitude to foist their ass-backwards dogma on the rest of us. It's time to smack them back down into the private Hells they've made for themselves, and for good.

[GovernmentShrinker]

The 10 Commandments have no place in public facilities. The "under God" in the pledge of allegiance leaves room for anyone to interpret the phrase in their own way, including viewing "God" as a metaphor for some unknown force that is responsible for the existence of the universe. The 10 Commandments, on the other hand, are very specific and a direct affront to many people's beliefs. The Old Testament's God being given space in courthouses and public schools, to demand that people have no other gods before him, is hardly steering clear of government establishment of religion.

[msnimje]

I am not particularly religious but the idea that the Ten Commandments could offend someone is offensive to me. Just look the other way if you do not want to read them.

How about people get offended by things that are really offensive like crimes against children or Terrorism or Famine or Genocide?

[GretchenM]

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[Mark Vargas]

It would appear that the acronym ACLU stands for American Communist Liars Union. Lets Pray that Kennedy will not be allowed to filibuster any more attempts to bring this country back to it's Christian heritage.
Furthermore I encourage everyone to read and carry a copy of the 1st and 2nd amendments. The 1st amendment does not say anything about separation of church and state. It simply says in layman's terms that government shall not have the power to establish any particular denomination of Christianity nor shall it have the power to remove one. Almost all the denominations are in agreement on the bible being the infallible word of God. Our founding fathers of this great nation were trying to protect us from tyranny that took place in England by the church of England.
As a matter of fact 98% of all early americans were protestant born again Christians. They would never dream of removing prayer and the bible from our schools because of the immorrality that they new would come in.

[little jeremiah]

Moral Absolutes Ping.

Looks as though we'll be hearing more about eradication versus preservation of the 10 Commandments in the near future.

Just for the record, I think they should be allowed in schools as well. Does anyone really think that it would harm children and high school students to read things like "Thou shalt not steal?"

Let me know if anyone wants on/off this pinglist.


P.S. I am no scholar (I know some of you are gasping in shock at this admission) and so all the little teensy details of constitutional this and that are all above my head. Some if you may remember the long and contentious threads about Judge Moore and his granite monument that got removed. I weighed in on some of those threads.


"No man is a good citizen unless he so acts as to show that he
actually uses the Ten Commandments, and translates the Golden
Rule into his life conduct." --Theodore Roosevelt

"If men will not be governed by the Ten Commandments, they shall be governed by the ten thousand commandments." --G. K. Chesterton

"The moral principles and precepts contained in the scriptures ought to form the basis of all our civil constitutions and laws. All the miseries and evils which men suffer from vice, crime, ambition, injustice, oppression, slavery, and war, proceed from their despising or neglecting the precepts contained in the Bible." Noah Webster, compiler of the American Dictionary of the English Language in 1828.

[RightWhale]

The White House has finally jumped in. The tide must be moving strongly now.

[animoveritas]

< sarcasm >Yeah, and they need to get all religious symbols off government property!< /sarcasm off >

ACLU, try removing these religious symbols...

[MissAmericanPie]

Nice to see some positive action being attempted.

[Baraonda]

Hopefully my tagline says it all.

[Non-Sequitur]

If you post "Thou shalt not lie" and "Thou shalt not steal" in courthouses then couldn't lawyers and judges make a case for hostile workplace environments?