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College's Decision to Allow Men Irks Women
fox news ^

Posted on 12/08/2004 1:56:35 PM PST by golch1979

NEW YORK — A decision by Wells College (search), which has been all-women since 1868, to begin admitting male students in order to boost enrollment has riled female students.

Many students are threatening to leave the upstate New York college, but two have moved beyond threats and filed a lawsuit that says the decision to enroll men constitutes a breach of contract and fraud.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: highereducation; singlesex; unhappydykes; wellscollege
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To: zahal724

Starbuck Hersey?


41 posted on 12/08/2004 2:20:06 PM PST by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: Blurblogger
I give up. Yes this could be a breach of contract, specially because there was obvious consideration. I'll grant all of that. They have a right to be mad. But that's not my point...oh, who cares.
42 posted on 12/08/2004 2:20:17 PM PST by golch1979 ("Captain Sobel, we solute the rank, not the man.")
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To: SolidSupplySide

Waaah, maybe the guys at VMI thought they were going to get an education in a single-sex enviroment too.


43 posted on 12/08/2004 2:20:19 PM PST by Shellback Chuck (Hey John, whose your daddy?)
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To: SolidSupplySide
The women who enrolled at Wells College under the assumption that they would enjoy a same-sex educational environment are getting the shaft.

If you bothered to read the article, you would have saved yourself a moot comment.

Administrators don't want to admit men until the current freshman class graduates in 2008....

44 posted on 12/08/2004 2:20:58 PM PST by Dr.Syn
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To: golch1979

Yep, it is perfectly legal.


45 posted on 12/08/2004 2:21:14 PM PST by cubreporter
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To: SolidSupplySide
It will be a sad day when noone has the ability to choose a single gender college.

Name one "single-gender" college for males.

46 posted on 12/08/2004 2:22:00 PM PST by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: SolidSupplySide
What about the hypocrisy of those who defend single sex male colleges, but won't do the same for single sex female colleges?

Because there aren't any single sex male colleges left. None.

Unless you want to go to a Madrassa in Saudi Arabia or Pakistan.

47 posted on 12/08/2004 2:23:52 PM PST by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: ChewedGum

Actually, men breaking into an all female school seems the more perplexing.

I'm a woman in a male-dominated field (I'm a software engineer) so I understand what drives women to compete in places they "don't belong".

But when men break out of their assigned roles (to become, for example, cheerleaders, flight attendants, nurses, housekeepers, or elementary school teachers) other, "manlier" men, often question their sexuality or worse.

Sure... you can "get the chicks" if you're in those fields... but it just targets you for abuse. I don't get it.


48 posted on 12/08/2004 2:24:49 PM PST by bigLusr (Quiquid latine dictum sit altum viditur)
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To: FreedomCalls
We see who the gender segregationist are now, huh?
49 posted on 12/08/2004 2:25:27 PM PST by golch1979 ("Captain Sobel, we solute the rank, not the man.")
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To: zahal724

They also said they don't have to wear make-up or do their hair.


50 posted on 12/08/2004 2:26:56 PM PST by rightinthemiddle (The Mainstream Media is Enemy #1. The Bureaucracy is Enemy #1.5.)
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To: All

I don't think a lawsuit will work or is necessarily the right tactic but I can understand feeling hoodwinked if the distinguishing feature of the institution I applied to and have been attending is changed midstream (and, yes, I know this happened at the Citadel and I feel sorry for the men it happened to, for the same reason. But a publicly funded institution is held to different governmental standards, rightly or wrongly.)

As I posted when another article on this subject was posted several weeks ago, I can understand the viewpoint of the women at Wells and I don't think their valid point of view should be mocked. They specifically applied to a women-only college because they wanted that experience. There are still several all-male colleges in existence also and I think there's a place for private single-sex colleges. Unfortunately, if the market can't support them they'll do what Wells is doing and nothing can stop it. But I understand the distress of people who are halfway through their education there. I think waiting 2 years or so and letting the current students graduate before implementing a drastic change like this would make more sense. Incoming students would know ahead of time what kind of school they are applying to.


51 posted on 12/08/2004 2:27:16 PM PST by saquin
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To: FreedomCalls

Actually someone listed three on a thread about this a few days ago. But I don't have time to research it at the moment. I think the men should have single sex colleges also and I'm a woman.


52 posted on 12/08/2004 2:27:20 PM PST by TXBubba ( Democrats: If they don't abort you then they will tax you to death.)
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To: G32
Couldn't have been named after the coffee place, but possibly Starbuck on Battlestar Galactica?

Starbuck is a Capt Ahab's First Mate in Moby Dick which came out long before coffee shops or TV shows.

53 posted on 12/08/2004 2:27:48 PM PST by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: jpl

Way back when I went to college, the college catalog of available courses that contained the curriculum for specific majors and which was in effect at the time a person declared a major, was considered a "contract" between the student and the school. Purportedly, it meant that the school could not add or change requirements to that person's future schedule for classes. Of course, the school always did, but in my experience, it was done without much hassle for the student. Others certainly might have different experiences and horror stories to tell. I suspect this "contract" might be what these girls are referring to, but I do not see how they can make this claim stick.

I once worked for an all women's college in Kentucky. It had originally been a school for orphaned young girls in the 1800s. It morphed into a two year college and then a four year school. Their nursing graduates were as sharp and as well trained as any in the country. The school began to permit male students in one of their off campus night programs (30 miles distant). This was viewed by the administration as a "revenue enhancer". I do not think the college has yet permitted males to enroll on the main campus.


54 posted on 12/08/2004 2:28:23 PM PST by miele man
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To: Blurblogger
Betcha an adminstrative head or two rolls over this and the "new policy" is repealed.

Bet.

55 posted on 12/08/2004 2:28:45 PM PST by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: bigLusr
But when men break out of their assigned roles (to become, for example, cheerleaders, flight attendants, nurses, housekeepers, or elementary school teachers) other, "manlier" men, often question their sexuality or worse.

Sure... you can "get the chicks" if you're in those fields... but it just targets you for abuse. I don't get it.

Not to mention that the pay and prestige is usually lower for "traditional" female jobs.

56 posted on 12/08/2004 2:28:47 PM PST by saquin
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To: saquin
"I think waiting 2 years or so and letting the current students graduate before implementing a drastic change like this would make more sense."


um...isn't that what they're doing
57 posted on 12/08/2004 2:29:08 PM PST by golch1979 ("Captain Sobel, we solute the rank, not the man.")
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To: rwfromkansas

There has to be a good screen shot from Animal House for this thread.

"Do you mind if we dance with jo' dates?"


58 posted on 12/08/2004 2:29:10 PM PST by rightinthemiddle (The Mainstream Media is Enemy #1. The Bureaucracy is Enemy #1.5.)
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To: bigLusr
but it just targets you for abuse

Maybe they like abuse.

59 posted on 12/08/2004 2:30:10 PM PST by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: Patrick1

Hillary went to Wellesley College where her valedictorian speech is sealed. My daughter went to an Explo camp there. she said she has no intention of ever setting foot on that campus again.


60 posted on 12/08/2004 2:30:36 PM PST by massgopguy (massgopguy)
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