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Mom Wants Justice for Her 'Fetus' (Canada)
The Province ^ | Wednesday, December 08, 2004 | Ethan Baron

Posted on 12/08/2004 12:05:28 PM PST by West Coast Conservative

A woman whose fetus died from a car accident lashed out yesterday against the law that says her unborn son was not a human.

"I don't want to see the person that hit me get away with it," said Aimee Wilson, 25, of Langley.

"He killed my son."

Wilson, eight months pregnant, was driving her Honda Civic on Alderbridge Way in Richmond about 11 p.m. on Nov. 28 when she was in a collision at No. 4 Road with another Civic, driven by a 21-year-old Burnaby man.

Staff at Vancouver General Hospital couldn't find her fetus' heartbeat.

"I remember asking a couple times, 'Are you sure, are you positive?' I couldn't believe it."

The fetus was removed by caesarean section. Wilson suffered a broken ankle.

Police say no charges can be laid in relation to the fetal death because under the Criminal Code, a fetus does not become a human until it is born alive.

Wilson and her boyfriend, Charles Thiele, 29, had known through ultrasound that their fetus was a boy, and they had named him Garrett.

"We had started collecting stuff, a baby stroller, a bassinet crib for the bedroom. I bought him a little hat and booties to bring him home in."

Hospital staff dressed the dead, five-pound, five-ounce fetus in a tuque and flannel pajamas, and brought it to Wilson and Thiele so they could say goodbye.

"He was absolutely beautiful," Wilson said. "He looked like a little porcelain doll.

"When I first was looking at him I didn't feel hurt, I was just so in awe. I was just absolutely amazed at the fact that we had created something so beautiful.

"He's got Charles' lips. He was born with a full head of dark hair like I was."

Wilson struggles unsuccessfully to understand how Garrett could be considered non-human.

"He did everything that a normal child would do. I could pretty much time when he was going to start moving in the evening. He would always prop one foot under my rib and one on my hip, and I could feel his heels moving around. He used to get hiccups on a regular basis.

"Garrett used to, every once in awhile, push back when you pushed him. You can't tell me that something's not human that reacts back, and has certain schedules.

"Just because he's in my stomach doesn't mean he's not a human. Without the accident, he would have survived."

Wilson has been recovering in St. Paul's Hospital. On her window sill sits a small silver box with a gold angel on top and a lock of Garrett's hair inside. Her breasts are full of milk.

"One of the biggest things that I'm finding hard to deal with was he was the first great-grandchild of my grandparents. My mom was looking forward to it so much. People were really, really happy. It really hurts me to see them hurting as much as me. They wanted the baby as much as I did."

Police say speed was a factor in the crash and they plan to lay charges, but until their investigation is finished they will not reveal who will be charged.

"It's not as clear-cut as one might think," said Richmond RCMP Cpl. Dave Williams.

The man driving the other car has "assisted the investigation greatly," but hoped-for witnesses have not materialized, Williams said.


TOPICS: Canada; Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; Miscellaneous; Politics/Elections
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WHAT THE LAW SAYS

- Under the Criminal Code, a fetus becomes a human when it "has completely proceeded, in a living state, from the body of its mother."

- In civil law, under which lawsuits are filed, there is a "born alive" rule that creates a definition of human life similar to that of the Criminal Code.

WHAT DO YOU THINK?

Give us your comments by fax at 604-605-2223, or by e-mail at provletters@png.canwest.com.

Be sure to spell out your first and last names and give your home town.

1 posted on 12/08/2004 12:05:29 PM PST by West Coast Conservative
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To: West Coast Conservative

My wife is 4 1/2 months pregnant and I could not imagine losing the baby right now. I feel so badly for this poor lady. I hope everything works out for her.


2 posted on 12/08/2004 12:11:44 PM PST by Personal Responsibility (Up is down, Black is white but I do *NOT* love Big Brother)
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To: West Coast Conservative
a fetus does not become a human until it is born alive

So if it isn't human, what is it? A puppy?
Sheesh
3 posted on 12/08/2004 12:12:12 PM PST by visualops (It's easier to build a child than repair an adult.)
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To: West Coast Conservative

one out of thousands of reasons not to move to Canada..

if thats the case then should people with life assisting devices not be considered human either?

a fetus may need its mother to survive, but does that make it any less human than a adult who needs a oxygen tank to breathe or an artificial heart?


4 posted on 12/08/2004 12:12:18 PM PST by atari
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To: West Coast Conservative

Notice that the mother uses the words "he" and "him" and the baby's name to refer to her son, but the writer of the article goes out of his or her way not to. To the writer, the baby is an "it" or a "fetus".


5 posted on 12/08/2004 12:13:26 PM PST by SilentServiceCPOWife (In the smiling twilight of the new political morning, the unwashed told their betters to shove it.)
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To: West Coast Conservative
My heart breaks for this woman.

In America she would have a chance at justice.

6 posted on 12/08/2004 12:14:50 PM PST by wideawake (God bless our brave soldiers and their Commander in Chief)
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To: West Coast Conservative
Wilson struggles unsuccessfully to understand how Garrett could be considered non-human.

Liberals just won't stand for it. It would turn abortion into a moral issue of life and death. Liberals prefer instead that abortion remain an amoral, amorphous "choice" issue.

Liberals love deluding themselves while they pave a path straight to Hell.

7 posted on 12/08/2004 12:16:05 PM PST by Prime Choice (I like Democrats, too. Let's exchange recipes.)
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To: West Coast Conservative

If this baby had been born early, two days before the accident, and then had been killed in the car on the way home from the hospital when they were hit -- it would have been manslaughter.

The ONLY difference is that he was still in the womb. Perfectly able to survive outside the womb .. just still in there.

Stupid.


8 posted on 12/08/2004 12:17:27 PM PST by proud_2_B_texasgal
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To: SilentServiceCPOWife

Grotesque on the part of the writer.


9 posted on 12/08/2004 12:17:57 PM PST by annyokie (If the shoe fits, put 'em both on!)
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To: West Coast Conservative
"I don't want to see the person that hit me get away with it," said Aimee Wilson, 25, of Langley.

Get away with what, being in a auto accident? She sounds like she wants the other driver tried for homicide but nothing in the article suggests that he did anything wrong. In fact, the LEO statement hints that she might have been at fault. Would she then support being charged with a crime if she caused the accident that killed her baby?

10 posted on 12/08/2004 12:17:59 PM PST by johniegrad
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To: West Coast Conservative
How terribly sad for this poor woman and her husband! To be that close to the birth of your child... Prayers for them. The dear child has gone to his full reward.
11 posted on 12/08/2004 12:18:30 PM PST by TChris (You keep using that word. I don't think it means what yHello, I'm a TAGLINE vir)
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To: West Coast Conservative
a fetus does not become a human until it is born alive.

That's right, while still in the womb, baby's are actually bunny rabbits.

12 posted on 12/08/2004 12:20:10 PM PST by AndyTheBear (Disastrous social experimentation is the opiate of elitist snobs.)
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To: AndyTheBear

baby's...er...babies.


13 posted on 12/08/2004 12:20:39 PM PST by AndyTheBear (Disastrous social experimentation is the opiate of elitist snobs.)
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To: West Coast Conservative
This is the flip side ... when pro-"choice" advocates say they don't want your religion to be applied to them, what about when their "religion" is applied to a pro-Life person ... and tells her that her child is not human? How is this "choice"?

This woman can't choose to believe that her baby was human ... the government is telling her he wasn't human. How is that "choice"?

14 posted on 12/08/2004 12:22:40 PM PST by Lorianne
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To: West Coast Conservative

I am 12 weeks pregnant right now...I can't imagine what this lady has gone through! More of these rabid pro-choice idjits should see what I saw my BABY doing -and what it was looking like-at 11 weeks! Isn't human, my butt!!


15 posted on 12/08/2004 12:23:15 PM PST by exnavychick (Just my two cents, as usual.)
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To: visualops
Canada...and possibly us, eventually.

God envelope this baby's soul. Amen.

16 posted on 12/08/2004 12:23:39 PM PST by onedoug
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To: West Coast Conservative

Funny how only the pro-abortion crowd refers to it as a "fetus."

I've yet to hear an expectant mother rejoice when her "fetus kicked."


17 posted on 12/08/2004 12:23:49 PM PST by Calvarys_Soldier (Thanks to George W. Bush, it's morning in America again.)
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To: West Coast Conservative

How horrible for this woman. And the law adds grave insult to the deadly injury.


18 posted on 12/08/2004 12:25:36 PM PST by cvq3842
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To: West Coast Conservative
Hospital staff dressed the dead, five-pound, five-ounce fetus in a tuque and flannel pajamas, and brought it to Wilson and Thiele so they could say goodbye.

No one dresses an It in flannel pajamas. It's revolting that in order to appear properly liberal, this author does not refer to the child as HE.

19 posted on 12/08/2004 12:26:34 PM PST by workerbee
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To: West Coast Conservative

This is one of the biggest changes that has occurred over the course of my lifetime. If this had happened fifty years ago, everyone would have been ready to lynch this guy. Nothing demanded our instant protective instincts more strongly than a pregnant mother under threat.

Now, a great many leftists prefer to ignore these situations, because it might put their precious "right to abortion" under threat. The media play down these stories. The judiciary refuse to act. NARAL and NOW and the ACLU close their eyes in hopes that the whole story will go away as soon as possible.

Canada may be worse, but elite liberal opinion in the U.S. isn't far behind. What's somewhat hopeful is that the drift now seems to be moving in the other direction, and more people are waking up to what the abortionists have imposed on us.


20 posted on 12/08/2004 12:27:18 PM PST by Cicero (Nil illegitemus carborundum est)
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