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1 posted on 12/07/2004 3:51:26 PM PST by RWR8189
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No wonder there are so few children in blue counties. Blue county schools are among the worst in the non-Muslim world.


2 posted on 12/07/2004 3:58:28 PM PST by ReadyNow
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Natalists are associated with red America...

I wish we could go back to when the Left-wingers were the "Reds".

3 posted on 12/07/2004 3:58:58 PM PST by Polybius
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I'd go for 3 or 4 kids if it wasn't so much work. Hats off to those who can handle this many kids without breaking anything against a wall, you have the gift of patience.


4 posted on 12/07/2004 4:01:57 PM PST by MaineRepublic (Talk sense to a fool and he calls you foolish. -- Euripides)
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The NYTimes hasn't a clue to what morality, family, GOD, and country are all about!

These people are dumbfounded by what was the norm only 40 years ago.

Our country crashed beginning with the johnson regime, trashed by the carter inept hell, and almost totally demoralized by the clinton.

demoralized? What is the word for the exact opposite of MORALS?


5 posted on 12/07/2004 4:02:50 PM PST by steplock (http://www.outoftimeradio.org)
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I liked the article, but you can tell that they are dumbfounded by real America.


6 posted on 12/07/2004 4:05:06 PM PST by steplock (http://www.outoftimeradio.org)
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A comforting report.

Reflecting upon societal trends for the past 40+ years, how gullible many of us have been to the destructive influences of: Hollywood mores, environmentalists' panic stricken warnings of "overpopulation", womens lib "life without men", psychobabble "blame someone else", Marxist educators and the "Hate American Life" press pimps, resulting in a noticeable lack of respect for our founders Judeo-Christian philosophy of decency.


7 posted on 12/07/2004 4:09:06 PM PST by highflight (use your own oxygen -I need mine)
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George Bush carried the 19 states with the highest white fertility rates, and 25 of the top 26. John Kerry won the 16 states with the lowest rates.

I'll bet Kerry won the states with the highest abortion rates.

8 posted on 12/07/2004 4:09:52 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (God is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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Hubby wants four, I tell him I want five but secretly hope for an even half-dozen.

What can I say? I'm addicted to babies LOL


13 posted on 12/07/2004 4:14:05 PM PST by Eepsy
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To: Mr. Silverback; pro Athanasius; OrthodoxPresbyterian

ping


17 posted on 12/07/2004 4:18:18 PM PST by Rytwyng (we're here, we're Huguenots, get used to us)
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I raised my children this way, starting in 1983. This is nothing new...it's just what conservatives have been doing forever.

I wonder if the writer can back up the claim that "natalists" (read: crazed baby maachines) tend to marry earlier. I know plenty, including me, from the boomer generation that waited a while, at least until we had our bachelor's degrees.

Too busy to fight a cultural war?? Think so? Come get some, leftist pukes!


20 posted on 12/07/2004 4:20:11 PM PST by DC native
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Good piece, though it's largely taken from Sailer's article. Andrew Sullivan has a lot of glee attacking the red states, but a lot of what he bashes them with has to do with the high birth rates of the red states. Massachusetts or Pennsylvania may have a low divorce rate because their population is older than that of other states. It's similar for other statistics. Blue states seem closer to zero population growth and hence don't experience some of the strains that that growth can bring. Consequently they aren't as troubled about the influences on children today.


22 posted on 12/07/2004 4:20:53 PM PST by x
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Thanks for my new tag line.


25 posted on 12/07/2004 4:22:22 PM PST by Alouette (Red county Natalist)
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If you wanted a one-sentence explanation for the explosive growth of far-flung suburbs, it would be that when people get money, one of the first things they do is use it to try to protect their children from bad influences.

Actually, it's that when people get money, they move to the 'burbs to keep the communists that typically run the big cities from taxing every dime of it away from them and jamming Marxist ideology down their throats and their children's throats.

26 posted on 12/07/2004 4:22:58 PM PST by Hardastarboard
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I wonder how the fertility rates would compare if they took into account the babies that are aborted in blue states. I guess I now have a name for myself, a natalist, seeing as i want a minimum of four children. :)


31 posted on 12/07/2004 4:32:21 PM PST by Celtic Rose (It may be prudent in me to act sometimes by other men's reason, but I can think only by my own)
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If you wanted a one-sentence explanation for the explosive growth of far-flung suburbs, it would be that when people get money, one of the first things they do is use it to try to protect their children from bad influences.

Bad influences like greedy, big-city liberals.

36 posted on 12/07/2004 4:46:11 PM PST by Spirochete
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In my neighborhood we have the most kids in the 30 years I have lived here. Only one of the near families has a trophy kid who can't play because his mother fears life. The others have 2 or 3 kids per family and are growing up in a real neighborhood with lots of kid friends like the one I grew up in.


37 posted on 12/07/2004 4:48:10 PM PST by bert (Don't Panic.....)
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Could be me! But my reply to David Brooks is:

What's it to you?

Why would a 'real' man worry about others' business so much?

42 posted on 12/07/2004 5:14:40 PM PST by xtinct (I was the next door neighbor kid's imaginary friend.)
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And I think Brooks is very wrong, wishfully wrong about thinking families with multiple chidren aren't active in the culture war...they are often on the cutting edge because they have a lot at stake...


48 posted on 12/07/2004 5:26:26 PM PST by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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"Natalists"

Better than "breeders", I suppose.

Speaking as the father of five. ;^)


63 posted on 12/07/2004 7:12:13 PM PST by headsonpikes (Another five-fingered Canadian... ;^))
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People who have enough kids for a basketball team are too busy to fight a culture war.

Pish-tosh! People who have enough kids for a baseball team are breeding their own private cultural army! I could tell you stories ...

And David Brooks is a conservative like I'm a redhead ... in exactly the right light, if you don't look at the roots *too* closely ...

83 posted on 12/08/2004 5:19:16 AM PST by Tax-chick (Benedicere cor tuo! Quomodo cogis comas tuas sic videri?)
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