Posted on 12/07/2004 12:06:09 PM PST by LouAvul
The growing clout of America's 100-million evangelical Christians is being heard loud and clear. Just turn on your radio, and you'll notice that a seismic shift in American culture is taking place.
Before, you could tune into different stations, which offered different music and different messages.
But now, as Correspondent Bob Simon reports on 60 Minutes Wednesday, Dec. 8, at 8 p.m. ET/PT,, evangelical Christian music is flowing into mainstream media -- and changing it. In fact, Christian entertainment now brings in $4 billion a year.
Rappers and rockers are making hits and making money while spreading the gospel to national audiences. Christian groups can be heard on secular radio and seen on "The Tonight Show." Earlier this year, the group Third Day even played at the Republican National Convention.
"The fact that there are Christian themes now emerging in rock and that Christians are in rock is just representative of a spiritual desire or a spiritual hunger in our culture," says Cameron Strang, publisher of Relevant Magazine, a religious publication.
(Excerpt) Read more at cbsnews.com ...
Wow your ancestors were into Space Gospel. Now that is cool.8-) I sure there are a lot people glad that StoneHer Gospel began to die out after the whole "He who has no sin may cast the first stone" incident.
Hmmm... on one hand, I agree completely with that, and on the other hand I could see someone saying "This Jesus dude seems pretty hip." and then they look closer and see the message of Hope and Salvation that He gives us all, and thus they get the message, too.
I think, in all honesty, for many people either way would work.
Jorge, you need to go back and read our first exchange again. You are mischaracterizing it.
Ah! Endarkenment!
“Wherefore we are receiving a kingdom that cannot be moved, let us have grace, whereby we may serve God acceptably with reverence and godly fear: For our God is a consuming fire” (Heb. 12:28-29).
With regard to Michal, I'd refer you to the exposition of A.W. Pink:
"And as the ark of the Lord came into the city of David, Michal, Saul’s daughter, looked through a window, and saw king David leaping and dancing before the Lord; and she despised him in her heart" (2 Sam. 6: 16). Saul himself had grievously neglected the public worship of Jehovah, and his daughter appears to have had no sense of the importance and value of heavenly things. It could hardly be expected that a woman who had idols, "teraphim," in her house (1 Sam. 19: 13), cared anything for the holy ark.
Sure it's a style or at least it can be cited as an example of a style music.
It's difficult to debate when the parameters keep switching, Jorge. Please don't change the character of what I said when challenging me on it.
I didn't actually change anything YOU said, I simply narrowed the parameters to specific examples within the concept of musical "styles".
You said you wouldn't exclude ANY "style" of music as an appropriate media to convey the Gospel message.
I can't believe you mean that ANY music is acceptable to preach Christ.
When confronted with darkness, most people naturally yearn for the Light... ;0)
http://www.essentialrecords.com/dayoffire/video.html
Does that guy sound ashamed of the gospel?
The Light always shines brighter....
No, it's a song. Within any given style, there are many examples of songs with any number of messages.
Don't be obtuse.
Exactly.
Great post. You "get it".
You keep changing the context of the discussion and creating a disagreement based on what someone didn't even say. Quite frankly I'm not amused.
Come on, cut it out.
"Born of water, and of the Spirit" (John 3:5). The Holy Spirit of God is the Begetter, the Word is the "seed" (1 John 3:9) He uses. "That which is born of the flesh is flesh: and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit" (John 3:6). And again, "It is the Spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing" (John 6:63). Nothing could be plainer. No sinner is quickened apart from the Word. The order which is followed by God in the new creation is the same He observed in the restoring of the old creation.
Also at www.wayfm.com Shimmy is on with "Total Axxess!"
I agree that the words are the most important part of the message. But I think the music itself is spiritual and conveys message that communicates on a different level.
The music I tend to write is very dark, but I use the darkness to represent how it would be if one had to face an eternity without feeling God's love. IS that wrong? If so, why?
I guess if you want to scare people to Christ that is fine. And it might work with some people. And there is nothing wrong with that.
But I think the more important message of the Gospel is one of light and hope. That Christ came into this world as a light to mankind, and that to know Him removes the burden of darkness from our lives. That He lifts us up and frees us.
Ah - here we are, with what my husband (a mature Christian with a doctorate in music) laughingly refers to as The Demon Backbeat™. I had hoped people were past that notion, but it's obviously alive and well.
It was a garment which was worn by the ordained priests in which they worked and conducted their duties. Since nakedness was an insult to the Jew I doubt that it was a loincloth. The Jewish Encyclopedia says there wasn't a more detailed description available.
The Hebrews considered nudity shameful, as illustrated by David's emissaries being humiliated by foreign powers who sent them back home with their beards shaven and their outer clothing cropped to show their buttocks (2 Sam. 10:4).
If I really mischaracterized our first exchange then you need to post exactly what you think is wrong with it.
Or at least try to.
I'm not going to go back and re-read the thread to try to figure out what point you are trying to make. Sorry.
1Then some Pharisees and teachers of the law came to Jesus from Jerusalem and asked,
2"Why do your disciples break the tradition of the elders? They don't wash their hands before they eat!"
3Jesus replied, "And why do you break the command of God for the sake of your tradition?
4For God said, 'Honor your father and mother'[1] and 'Anyone who curses his father or mother must be put to death.'[2]
5But you say that if a man says to his father or mother, 'Whatever help you might otherwise have received from me is a gift devoted to God,'
6he is not to 'honor his father[3] ' with it. Thus you nullify the word of God for the sake of your tradition. 7You hypocrites! Isaiah was right when he prophesied about you:
8" 'These people honor me with their lips,
but their hearts are far from me.
9They worship me in vain;
their teachings are but rules taught by men.'[4] "
10Jesus called the crowd to him and said, "Listen and understand. 11What goes into a man's mouth does not make him 'unclean,' but what comes out of his mouth, that is what makes him 'unclean.' "
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