Posted on 12/07/2004 6:56:46 AM PST by Laissez-faire capitalist
August 9, 2004 - An Australian medical ethics expert told an audience at a marriage conference recently that homosexuals are excluding themselves from marriage and family by refusing to join the great "circle of life."
Dr. David van Gend told the audience, "By its very nature, homosexuality has excluded itself. It has stepped outside the circle of life--the timeless, endless natural circle of male and female, parent and offspring."
He notes that the origins of homosexual behavior are complex, but "whatever its origins, the outcome of homosexuality is best understood as a very complex state of confusion over sexual identity."
Van Gend cites the National Health and Social Life Survey published in 1994 in the U.S. In this survey, 8% of the 16-year-olds thought they were gay--but, "significantly, that by age 18 only 4% still thought they were gay, and by age 25, only 2 percent still thought they were gay. What that means is that most sexual confusion in school children clears away if left to iteslf. It doesn't need therapy or counseling. It is a passing phase..."
CNSnews.com has more details on this story: "Homosexuals Are Excluding Themselves From Marriage, Family." The Thomas More Centre in Brisbane has posted a speech on homosexuality from a medical perspective by Dr. van Gend on its web site: Thomas More Centre.
Maybe because they are mentally ill, and can't help themselves---any more than a paranoid schizophrenic or manic depressive can. Gay behavior is NOT normal.
I dont know where that study is from, but many studies have concluded that the percentage of gay people is closer to 10%, with many more that are at least somewhat curious. You guys are just falling for a doctor with a pro-family, religious marriage agenda, in the same way over-the-top gay groups have an agenda."
Just as it is the vested interest of the "over-the-top gay groups" to publish the HIGHER numbers. It isn't the "anti-gay" folks who are blocking scientific reserach into what the causes of "gayness" might be. Any "cause" other than "it's in the genes" is denigrated and, in many cases, cannot be published.
And now...guess you just can't keep your light under a bushel forever, can you?
All homosexuals are frozen in an adolescent stage of development. That's why they're so obsessed with sex they self-identify with their fetish and why they're so narcissistic they can't build a relationship with someone unless it's based on lust.
If they were true adults, they wouldn't be homosexual.
Shalom.
Like I've said since I spent any time thinking about it, Homosexuality is not sex. It is sexual perversion, like beastiality. There are two kinds of sex:
1. Sex between a male and a female.
2. Sexual perversion.
The first is the whole reason it exists, the second requires a little modification of the normal wiring of the biological machine.
The figures are meaningless without a longitudinal study. In other words, to survey the same 16 year olds again at 18 years old and at 25 years old. Moreover, this formulation flies in the face of many studies indicating that many homosexuals do not form the identity until the later teens and early twenties.
In other words, he is assuming that none of the 92% of 16 year olds who do not consider themselves gay will later decide that they are; that all of the 2% of 25 y.o. and the 4% of 18 y.o. who consider themselves gay were part of the 8% of 16 y.o. that considered themselves gay. That is a silly non-scientific extrapolation from the actual survey results.
In fact, the most likely explanation is nothing more than margin of error, and a probable outlier 16 year old and 25 year old sample (which is probably why he chose those ages..) If I had the published results here with me right now, I could look and see how large the sub-samples of those age groups were, but I can confidently say from memory that these results are well within the margin of error.
Sources, please?
Or are you a troll?
This sentence shows us the true measure of the mental 'power' behind the statement. LOL
maybe being a good parent means letting your kids do whatever makes them the happiest for the short time they are on this earth as long as it is not harmful or illegal.
Ding ding ding ding! We have a winner!
Problem is, is that they don't want to just keep "it" in their bedrooms. Thy are not content with that. They want their disordered behavior taught as 'ok' within the public school system. Homosexuals make up 2-4% of the total population yet constitute 60%+ of the AIDS cases and demand that our tax dollars fund treatments for it.
Some of the guys who like to spend a lot of time talking to my daughter tell her they are gay. She never sees them with "boyfriends." I have concluded that this is a new way to attract girls - claim to be gay and hope she will want to be the one to "set you straight." At least claim to be gay and get an opportunity to get to know her before she rejects you.
Shalom.
Nope. Judging by your inability to correctly punctuate or capitalize a sentence, neither have you.
Gay sex is inherently harmful. Health statistics alone prove that, to say nothing of the spiritual harm being done.
Your use of the patently false 10% figure is highly suspicious.
Kinsey came up with that figure in order to promote sexual deviancy, and his whole life's work was the promotion and practice of sexual deviancy.
Even "gay" activists now admit they lied when they used the 10% figure.
The real number of homosexuals (at any given time, since there are tens of thousands of former homosexuals) is roughly 2%.
Since you are new to FR, why don't you read some of the articles linked to here about homosexuality, so you can have an informed opinion instead of a fact-free one:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1026551/posts
Homosexual Agenda: Categorical Index of Links
The Gay Industry understands these facts as well which is why they push so hard for gay clubs in high school and college. They are about forcing confused kids deeper into the "lifestyle" hoping to trap them permanently.
This figure was first reported by Kinsey and has since been proven incorrect. (But then, all of Kinsey's research was erroneous.)
"Problem is, is that they don't want to just keep "it" in their bedrooms. Thy are not content with that. They want their disordered behavior taught as 'ok' within the public school system. Homosexuals make up 2-4% of the total population yet constitute 60%+ of the AIDS cases and demand that our tax dollars fund treatments for it."
Let's see a source on that made up on-the-spot number
Uninformed troll alert. gwbistheman, you're going to wish you hadn't shown off your lack of knowledge.
Shalom.
Maybe, but that wouldn't account for a decrease in the number of self-identified lesbians. AFAIK, lesbians are no more prone to dying young than straight people.
What a loser...perfect representative of "the lifestyle" if you ask me.
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