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FReeper Canteen ~ Part V of the Mongols ~ December 7, 2004
www.coldsiberia.org ^ | December 7, 2004 | LaDivaLoca

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Part V of The Mongols

Mongolian Bow

Because the Old Mongols lived in an environment where survival skills were always of the utmost importance, it was a matter of course that they should develop excellent tools, both civilian and military. One piece of equipment that was of great significance in war as well as in the daily life of the Mongols was their composite bow. Perhaps this bow is not quite as well-known in the West as the English longbow, which was the best bow ever to emerge in Europe.

Yet the Old Mongolian bow was incomparably superior to everything seen in the West. Not until the advent of breach-loading firearms in the 1800's was the Mongolian bow decisively surpassed as a long-range shooting tool. Still the original Mongolian bow remains a formidable tool for targeting, war or hunting, and the people around the Bajkal sea regularly used these bows for hunting at least up to the twentieth century.

Military Use

When we are talking about Mongolian bows, the first thoughts go the their military use, although hunting and target practice certainly were more prominent activities. Every day was not filled with war, but hunting and the training of skills were part of the daily routine. However, we will start with the military aspect.

In the military, each soldier carried two bows on horseback. One bow was for long-range shooting, another for shooting at close distances. Also, each soldier had two quivers with arrows for different purposes. To mention but a few of these, there were armor-piercing arrows with a particularly heavy arrowhead of tempered steel, there were incendiary arrows for setting buildings afire and spreading fear in the enemy ranks, as well as whistling arrows for signalling. Of course, the most arrows they carried were ordinary arrows where the arrowhead and length of the shaft were adjusted to the normal range at which the particular type arrow was to be used. The standard, according to James Chambers, was that each soldier should have at least sixty arrows with him or her. Yes; it merits mention once more that the strongest and most courageous Mongolian females rode along with the men and fought bravely. Also, the women who did not ordinarily participate in military activity nevertheless had to learn how to wield the bow, a necessary skill for self-defence as well as hunting.

The Construction

We are now going into the details of the Mongolian bow. As already mentioned, it was the best bow in the world, and probably still is. Even though the modern high-tech compound bows are in some ways more convenient to use and can be made equally powerful, the sheer simplicity of the Mongol composite bow with its complete indepencence of foreign equipment and complicated parts that the archer cannot easily repair or replace makes the Mongol bow on balance a superior solution. In order to show the Mongols and their extraordinary bow the proper respect, the story is mostly told in the present tense, which also serves to emphasize the salient point that these things can be done today as well.

The Mongol bow is not as large and long as the English one, but it is vastly more powerful. The draw weight of an English longbow averages around 70-80 pounds, whereas the Old Mongol bow had a pull that, according to George Vernadsky, averaged at around 166 pounds. Chambers states that the pull varied from 100 to 160 pounds. This seeming discrepancy certainly reflects the fact that draw weight varied with the strength of the user, and with what use the bow had been made for. As could be expected, there was a considerable difference in shooting range. Whereas the English longbow could shoot at distances up to 250 yards or around 228 meters, the Mongol counterpart can hit its target at 350 yards or 320 meters and, if the archer is well trained for the task, even beyond that.

There are people who claim that the Old Mongols could shoot and hit their target over truly astonishing distances. Gongor Lhagvasuren, Deputy Director at the Mongolian National Institute of Physical Education, has written an article called "The stele of Chinggis Khan." There, Lhagvasuren refers to an ancient inscription on a stone found in the basin of the river Kharkiraa, a left tributary of Urlengui river which flows into the trans-Bajkal river Erdene. The text of the inscription, supposedly dated from 1226, may be interpreted as follows: "While Chinggis Khan was holding an assembly of Mongolian dignitaries, after his conquest of Sartaul (East Turkestan), Esungge shot a target at 335 alds" (536m). Lhagvasuren draws the conclusion in his article that such feats were rather common for Mongolian archers during the 1200's, and writes: "This case illustrates the strength, accuracy and sharpness, physical prowess of the Mongolians who lived more than 700 years ago." Whether or not we find it likely that Mongolian archers could regularly hit their targets at the distances Lhagvasuren claims they could, there is no question that they and their and bows are outstanding in all of archery's history.

When we take a closer look at the Mongolian bow, we see that it is an intriguing construction indeed. The backbone of the bow is a wooden frame, which will typically be birch, because that wood is resilient and is also readily available. The total length of the frame is 150-160 cm. When the bow is unstrung, it looks like a semi-circle with a beautifully curvaceous shape, but when a string is attached the whole thing is stretched out so that its limbs are bent inward. Even so, these limbs with string attachments are bent slighly away from the archer, forming a double curve. It is this double curve that delivers explosive acceleration and awesome velocity to the arrow. From these limbs or bends of the bow behind the string attachments where the impact is greatest, the frame is covered with elongated and flattened pieces of mountain sheep's (or other wild or domesticated ungulate's) horn or/and bone which adds snapping power to the resilient wood in the frame. These hard parts form a layer that covers the whole area of the so-called belly, which is the part between the grip and the limbs. Chambers describes how the back parts of the bow, nearest the archer, were those covered with horn and/or bone while the sinew layer was applied to the outer side.

The reader will have noticed that I use the term horn and/or bone. This is because the precise details of how the bows were built could vary over the Siberian area, although the main features are clear. The bone elements, when added, are no more than a small part at the center of the bow, and may originally have served mainly ornamental and possibly magical purposes.

source: http://www.coldsiberia.org/monbow.htm

Next Tuesday Part VI of The Mongols




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To: MoJo2001

Mr Goat NEEDS a girlfriend!

He's in a destructive mood lately.

Knocking down the POW flag, banging on front door.

Etc, Etc

Going to neighbors houses Etc

He NEEDS a girlfriend to sow his wild oats.


321 posted on 12/07/2004 5:36:20 PM PST by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (I just pay the rent. The cats and dog let me live here.)
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub; Kathy in Alaska; Fawnn; bentfeather; HiJinx; tomkow6; Radix; Spotsy; ...
Shall we play some music?

Don't forget to click on the hyperlinks!

Song: Rock N Roll
Artist: Led Zeppelin

I dedicate this to all our Troops that
just want to enjoy some loud music and
raise some hell in Iraq, Afghanistan, or
wherever you're located!


IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME SINCE I ROCK N' ROLLED
IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME SINCE I GOT DOWN AND STROLLED
OH LET ME GET BACK LET ME GET BACK LET ME GET BACK
LIVING BABY WHERE I COME FROM

IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME BEEN A LONG TIME BEEN A LONG LONELY LONELY LONELY LONELY LONELY TIME
YES IT HAS

IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME SINCE I TALKED OF LOVE
I KICK OUT THE TUNES WITH THE LIKE OF YOUR LOVE
CARRY ME BACK CARRY ME BACK CARRY ME BACK
BABY WHERE I COME FROM

IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME BEEN A LONG TIME BEEN A LONG LONELY LONELY LONELY LONELY LONELY TIME

solo

BEEN SO LONG SINCE I WALKED IN THE REAL LIFE
MAKE IT OH JUST CAN'T WALK RIGHT
OH YEA OPEN YOUR ARMS OPEN YOUR ARMS OPEN YOUR ARMS
BABY I'LL COME RUNNING

IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME BEEN A LONG TIME BEEN A LONG LONELY LONELY LONELY LONELY LONELY TIME




YEA YEA YEA YEA
OHO YEA OHO YEA
BEEN A LONG TIME BEEN A LONG TIME BEEN A LONG LONELY LONELY LONELY LONELY TIME



 
322 posted on 12/07/2004 5:36:24 PM PST by MoJo2001 (Operation Valentine's Day ---Begins January 1st - January 21st..www.proudpatriots.com)
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To: Old Sarge; bentfeather; tomkow6; StarCMC; All
Shall we play some music?

Don't forget to click on the hyperlinks!

Song: Steppin Out
Artist: Joe Jackson

It's 80s Music! WooHoo!

Now -
The mist across the window hides the lines
But nothing hides the colour of the lights that shine
Electricity so fine
Look and dry your eyes

We -
So tired of all the darkness in our lives
With no more angry words to say
Can come alive
Get into a car and drive
To the other side

Me babe - steppin out
Into the night
Into the light
You babe - steppin out
Into the night
Into the light

We -
Are young but getting old before our time
We’ll leave the t.v. and the radio behind
Don’t you wonder what we’ll find
Steppin out tonight

You -
Can dress in pink and blue just like a child
And in a yellow taxi turn to me and smile
We’ll be there in just a while
If you follow me

Me babe - steppin out
Into the night
Into the light
You babe - steppin out
Into the night
Into the light

 

323 posted on 12/07/2004 5:40:10 PM PST by MoJo2001 (Operation Valentine's Day ---Begins January 1st - January 21st..www.proudpatriots.com)
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To: MoJo2001; dennisw; Cachelot; Yehuda; Nix 2; veronica; Catspaw; knighthawk; Alouette; Optimist; ...

Ping to Post 305


324 posted on 12/07/2004 5:50:58 PM PST by SJackson ( Bush is as free as a bird, He is only accountable to history and God, Ra'anan Gissin)
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub
Fire and Ice

        Some say the world will end in fire;
        Some say in ice.
        From what I've tasted of desire
        I hold with those who favor fire.
        But if it had to perish twice,
        I think I know enough of hate
        To know that for destruction ice
        Is also great
        And would suffice.
                                                - Robert Frost

325 posted on 12/07/2004 5:52:54 PM PST by Lady Jag (All I want is a warm bed and a kind word and unlimited power)
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To: LaDivaLoca

Happy Hanukkah!


326 posted on 12/07/2004 5:54:31 PM PST by 7.62 x 51mm (• veni • vidi • vino • visa • "I came, I saw, I drank wine, I shopped")
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub; All
Oh my goodness look at this!

Florida Power &Light Working At Orlando Intern'l Airport After seeing this I would definitely want hazardous duty pay! Just another day at work in the beautiful Florida Sun!!! A Florida Power &Light crew putting in lines for an addition to the Orlando International Airport found the following in a culvert they were using...


327 posted on 12/07/2004 5:55:46 PM PST by AZamericonnie (They say I have ADD but they just don't understand.....oh look! A chicken!)
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To: armyavonlady
Glad you are powered back up. Please assure your father-in-law that we haven't forgotten "the first time something like this happened". We will not be forgetting.


328 posted on 12/07/2004 5:59:30 PM PST by Kathy in Alaska (Support Our Troops! Operation Valentine's Day www.proudpatriots.com)
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To: MoJo2001

329 posted on 12/07/2004 5:59:53 PM PST by Diva Betsy Ross (I am not NOT PC.. And Proud of it!: Merry Christmas! Happy Hanukkah!)
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To: All
Shall we play some music?

Don't forget to click on the hyperlinks!

Song: Workin' In A Coal Mine
Artist: Devo

It's 80s Music! WooHoo!

well i been workin' in a coal mine
goin' down down
workin' in a coal mine
whew about to slip down
five o'clock in the mornin'
i'm up before the sun
when my work day is over
i'm too tired for havin' fun
lord i am so tired
how long can this go on
i been workin' goin' workin'
whew about to slip down


 

330 posted on 12/07/2004 6:00:18 PM PST by MoJo2001 (Operation Valentine's Day ---Begins January 1st - January 21st..www.proudpatriots.com)
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To: Diva Betsy Ross

*HUGS*
Hi DBR!
How's Stephen? Jimmy?

Oh yes! How is the mommy doing tonight?

Shall I come over and show Stephen what a mess we can make with chocolate frosting? LOL!


331 posted on 12/07/2004 6:01:24 PM PST by MoJo2001 (Operation Valentine's Day ---Begins January 1st - January 21st..www.proudpatriots.com)
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

Sounds like a horny ol' goat to me.... ;-)


332 posted on 12/07/2004 6:04:14 PM PST by GummyIII (I feel like I'm diagonally parked in a parallel universe.)
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To: tomkow6
ROTFLMAO!!!


333 posted on 12/07/2004 6:04:34 PM PST by Kathy in Alaska (Support Our Troops! Operation Valentine's Day www.proudpatriots.com)
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To: StarCMC
Thank you for that Rather silly joke.
Here is a big-eyed air horn cow.



334 posted on 12/07/2004 6:04:41 PM PST by Lady Jag (All I want is a warm bed and a kind word and unlimited power)
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To: LaDivaLoca

U.S. Air Force airmen prepare a cache of weapons for destruction at Bagram Airfield, Afghanistan, on Dec. 2, 2004. The airmen are assigned to the 455th Civil Engineer Flight, Explosive Ordnance Disposal Team. U.S. Army photo by Sgt. J. Antonio Francis


U.S. Air Force Staff Sgt. Derek Keener and Staff Sgt. Scott Ackeret aim a rocket launcher at a weapons cache they are about to destroy on the East River Range, Bagram Airfield, Afghanistan on Dec. 2, 2004. U.S. Army photo by Sgt. J. Antonio Francis


Airmen of the U.S. Air Force's 455th Explosive Ordnance Group / Explosive Ordnance Disposal set C-4 charges on a weapons cache to be destroyed at the East River Range, Bagram Airfield, Afghanistan, Dec. 2, 2004. U.S. Army photo by Sgt. J. Antonio Francis


A weapons cache is detonated at the East River Range on Bagram Airfield, Afghanistan, Dec. 2, 2004. The cache was destroyed by airmen of the U.S. Air Force's 455th Explosive Ordnance Group. U.S. Army photo by Sgt. J. Antonio Francis

335 posted on 12/07/2004 6:05:54 PM PST by Excuse_My_Bellicosity (Gun-control is leftist mind-control.)
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To: Lady Jag; 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

Tonk's goat after meeting his new girlfriend????


336 posted on 12/07/2004 6:07:29 PM PST by GummyIII (I feel like I'm diagonally parked in a parallel universe.)
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To: Diva Betsy Ross; StarCMC; Old Sarge; All
Shall we play some music?

Don't forget to click on the hyperlinks!

Song: I'm Alright
Artist: Kenny Loggins

It's 80s Music! WooHoo!

I’m alright
Nobody worry ’bout me
Why you got to gimme a fight?
Can’t you just let it be?

I’m alright
Don’t nobody worry ’bout me
You got to gimme a fight
Why don’t you just let me be

Do what you like,
Doing it nat’rally
But if it’s too easy
They’re gonna disagree

It’s your life
And isn’t it a mystery
If it’s nobody’s bus’ness
It’s everybody’s game

Gotta catch you later
No, no, cannonball it right away

Some cinderella kid

Get up and get you a job
(dip dip dip dip dip dip dip dip)

I’m alright
Nobody worry ’bout me
Why you got to gimme a fight?
Can’t you just let it be?

I’m alright
Don’t nobody worry ’bout me
You got to gimme a fight
Why don’t you just let me be

Who do you want?
Who you be today?
And who is it really
Makin’ up your mind?

You wanna listen to the man?
Pay attention to the magistrate
And while I got you in the mood
Listen to your

Own heart beatin’
Own heart beatin’
Own heart beatin’
Own heart beatin’

Don’t it get you movin’

Mmmmm-man

It make me feel good

(wow, cinderella kid)

Then give it up and give it the job

(dip dip dip dip dip dip dip dip)
(boom, boom, boom, boom)

I’m alright
Nobody worry ’bout me
Why you got to gimme a fight?
Can’t you just let it be?

I’m alright
Don’t nobody worry ’bout me
You got to gimme a fight
Why don’t you just let me be

I’m alright
Nobody worry ’bout me
Why you got to gimme a fight?
Can’t you just let it be?

I’m alright
I’m alright
Just let me be



 

337 posted on 12/07/2004 6:07:40 PM PST by MoJo2001 (Operation Valentine's Day ---Begins January 1st - January 21st..www.proudpatriots.com)
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To: GummyIII

Hehehe!

Hey! Don't help him. We want Mr.Goat to stay at home and be miserable--just like Ma.


338 posted on 12/07/2004 6:08:32 PM PST by MoJo2001 (Operation Valentine's Day ---Begins January 1st - January 21st..www.proudpatriots.com)
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To: bentfeather

That reindeer thread was too cute.


339 posted on 12/07/2004 6:10:25 PM PST by Kathy in Alaska (Support Our Troops! Operation Valentine's Day www.proudpatriots.com)
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To: All
Shall we play some music?

Don't forget to click on the hyperlinks!

Song: Sweet Dreams
Artist: The Eurythmics

It's 80s Music! WooHoo!

Sweet dreams are made of this
Who am I to disagree?
I travel the world
And the seven seas--
Everybody’s looking for something.
Some of them want to use you
Some of them want to get used by you
Some of them want to abuse you
Some of them want to be abused.

(hold your head up--keep your head up--movin’ on)




 

340 posted on 12/07/2004 6:10:56 PM PST by MoJo2001 (Operation Valentine's Day ---Begins January 1st - January 21st..www.proudpatriots.com)
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