[It's me]

If we are predestined where does free will come in?

[texan75010]

Here is my take on Predestination. A teacher gives a test. Depending on how well you prepared yourself for the test determines what grade you will get. If you are fully prepared, you are predestine to get an "A". It was determined before hand what it takes to get that "A". All you have to do is that amount of studying to achieve that.

God laid out what it takes to get to heaven before hand. It is predestined. It is up to you to take the steps to achieve that. (Not talking about works).

[wideawake]

I suspect P8riot may be a Five Point Calvinist, in which case he accepts the doctrines of Limited Atonement and Irresistible Grace - namely that free will is an illusion and that those who are saved (or damned) have no choice in the matter.