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I suspect P8riot may be a Five Point Calvinist, in which case he accepts the doctrines of Limited Atonement and Irresistible Grace - namely that free will is an illusion and that those who are saved (or damned) have no choice in the matter.


174 posted on 12/06/2004 1:44:10 PM PST by wideawake (God bless our brave soldiers and their Commander in Chief)
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To: wideawake
I suspect P8riot may be a Five Point Calvinist, in which case he accepts the doctrines of Limited Atonement and Irresistible Grace - namely that free will is an illusion and that those who are saved (or damned) have no choice in the matter.

Then what's the point of living a moral life? If your fate is determined at the time of your birth (which was an idea that the Classical Greek and Roman religions accepted, btw) why follow any religious rules?

182 posted on 12/06/2004 1:50:15 PM PST by Modernman (Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy. --Benjamin Franklin)
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