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Tax Advice for Mr. Bush: Consider the VAT ( Bruce Bartlett of National center for policy Analysis)
Fortune ^ | December 13, 2004 issue of Fortune | Bruce Bartlett - Senior Fellow at NCPA

Posted on 12/04/2004 2:16:46 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach

POLICY
Tax Advice for Mr. Bush: Consider the VAT

The logic of a value-added tax is compelling and may soon be overwhelming.

FORTUNE

Wednesday, December 1, 2004

By Bruce Bartlett

President Bush has pushed through some delightful changes in the tax code over the past four years: lower income tax rates, rebates, and increased business depreciation allowances, to name a few. It's been great. Except for one thing: When you consider those measures as a whole, they don't make much sense. Bush's tax policy--although "policy" may be stretching the meaning of the word--is a haphazard mess.

What's scary is that the President has never spelled out anything resembling a guiding philosophy of taxation. Is it more important to the President that we fundamentally restructure the tax system into something coherent and efficient? Or does he simply believe that taxes must be lower, period, and damn the consequences? Who knows? Without a principled view of tax reform the White House and Congress are too easily led astray into ad hoc policies. And that's how we find ourselves with the kind of unholy hairball of a tax code that we so enjoy today.

Meanwhile, all the President's tax cuts are a reason the federal deficit is getting out of control. Political pressure hasn't yet built to the point where the administration might, say, do something about the deficit. But it's building. And there are reasons to believe that financial markets will force Washington to take action, which is what happened in the 1980s. The sharply falling dollar and rapidly rising current-account deficit mean that something will have to be done soon to reduce America's dependence on foreign capital. Reducing the budget deficit is the quickest and easiest way to do that.

But even if financial markets somehow fail to demand action on the deficit, the economy-devouring effects of America's long-term entitlement obligations will. According to the Congressional Budget Office's most likely scenario, Medicare and Medicaid spending alone will rise from 4% of GDP to 11.5% in 2030 and 21.3% in 2050. Today, by contrast, all federal spending consumes just under 20% of GDP. On the revenue side, the federal government is taking in only 16% of GDP, the lowest percentage since the 1950s and well below the postwar average of 18%. Yet Bush has proposed making all expiring tax cuts permanent, and everyone knows that the alternative minimum tax (AMT) will have to be fixed, which will further erode revenue growth.

Putting all that together yields an inescapable conclusion: The government must increase federal revenue as a share of GDP. In other words, raise taxes. The only question is how? Although Bush's position is essentially that the country needs more taxes the way it needs more liberals, the idea that the growing deficit can be ignored or that it can be dealt with solely on the spending side is simply wrong and getting wronger.

One clue to where Bush may end up comes from his days as governor of Texas. He appointed a tax-reform commission that recommended a form of value-added tax, or VAT, for the state. Bush endorsed the proposal and worked to get it passed, although the legislature ultimately voted it down.

Many economists, including this one, believe that the time has come for the U.S. to seriously consider a national VAT. We are the only major industrialized country without one. A broad-based VAT could raise half a percent of GDP in revenue for every percent of tax. A 10% VAT, therefore, could raise revenue equal to 5% of GDP. That would be more than enough to fix glaring problems in the tax code such as the AMT, make Bush's tax cuts permanent, and still leave money for deficit reduction.

There's no doubt that a VAT would be controversial. But it has the enormous virtue of raising large revenues at a low economic cost--discouraging less economic output per $1 raised than any other tax that economists know of. Trying to raise substantial additional federal revenues by increasing income tax rates would be far more costly to the economy.

A VAT has other virtues as well. If it were used to replace the corporate income tax, it would unquestionably improve the competitiveness of American businesses because world trade rules allow a VAT to be rebated on exports, whereas corporate income taxes may not. That is one reason European businesses have remained competitive despite tax burdens sharply higher than those here.

There is no indication that Bush will propose a VAT, either for deficit reduction or tax reform. But the logic for it is compelling and may soon become overwhelming. It's the least bad way out of this morass.-F


Bruce Bartlett is a senior fellow at the National Center for Policy Analysis and was a staffer in the Reagan and George H.W. Bush administrations.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Editorial; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: brucebartlett; budgetdeficits; taxes; taxpolicy; taxreform
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1 posted on 12/04/2004 2:16:46 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

This guy is a JACKASS! The VAT SUX!


2 posted on 12/04/2004 2:17:42 PM PST by zzen01
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To: zzen01

Bartlett is just being practical. He knows that a "no veto" president who wants to be a Republican FDR isn't going to cut spending.


3 posted on 12/04/2004 2:25:01 PM PST by Moonman62 (Federal Creed: If it moves tax it. If it keeps moving regulate it. If it stops moving subsidize it.)
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To: zzen01

And your Degree in Economics is from WHICH university?


4 posted on 12/04/2004 2:25:57 PM PST by konaice
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
What's scary is that the President has never spelled out anything resembling a guiding philosophy of taxation.

That's because the tax cuts were done to buy votes, not to help the economy.

5 posted on 12/04/2004 2:26:29 PM PST by Moonman62 (Federal Creed: If it moves tax it. If it keeps moving regulate it. If it stops moving subsidize it.)
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To: Moonman62

They help the economy....which gets my vote and many others....


6 posted on 12/04/2004 2:30:29 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (A Proud member of Free Republic ~~The New Face of the Fourth Estate since 1996.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
They help the economy....which gets my vote and many others....

Yes they do, but some tax cuts help the economy more than others. My comment was addressing the philosophy of the tax cuts, which is the subject that Bartlett brought up.

7 posted on 12/04/2004 2:34:58 PM PST by Moonman62 (Federal Creed: If it moves tax it. If it keeps moving regulate it. If it stops moving subsidize it.)
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To: Moonman62
"That's because the tax cuts were done to buy votes, not to help the economy"

Nonsense!
The Bush tax cuts are precisely what saved us from the double whammy of the Klinton recession and the ravages of the economic effects of 9/11.
President Bush inherited a recession, and is finishing his first term with an economy rocking along with a sizzling 3.9% GDP growth in the last quarter alone.
Try comparing that to Germany and France (who Hanoi John Kerry wants to take orders from) with their pathetic, anemic 0.1% GDP growth in the last quarter!
8 posted on 12/04/2004 2:39:58 PM PST by KwasiOwusu
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
I think that because FairTax.org has done such a find job of spelling out their program, and the EU has done such a botch job of implementing a VAT, that everyone is down on the Vat and up on the NRST without enough analysis of either.

FACT: No modern industrialized nation has ever been funded solely by a NRST.

FACT: Many many nations use some form of VAT.

Therefore we have ample opportunity to fine tune a VAT by taking the best of the best and eliminating the worst of the worst elements found in the world.

But With a NRST we have to get it right the first time, because when problems crop up, the pressure will be to revert immediately to the Income Tax.

Those people who rail against a VAT always do so by saying "I lived with one in Britain and it was horrible" without a single shred of detail, without any balancing arguments about personal income taxes, and without any well documented plan for an American VAT. All objections are based on one or two miserable VATS with total disregard to where it works well.

Similarly the NRST is put forth with total disregard to entire segments of the economy that will be sent into a tail spin laying off millions (new housing) and with no real plans to deal with the black markets that will grow like wild fire, and no real way to prevent creeping exemptions from ruining it for all.

So pick apart the VAT if you will, but have the guts to do it with fact and figures and the integrity to look for those parts of that really make sense. None of the this "A one dollar item end up costing 10 dollars" nonsense.

And in the gleeful rush to a NRST, at least have the guts to admit there will be massive fraud, and don't look the other way saying "market forces -- yadda yadda".

We all want to get rid of the IRS, but remember all those former IRS agents will (under either a VAT or a NRST) be focused on a much smaller number of businesses. They will, if left unchecked force prices just as high as they are under an Income Tax, by nit picking regulation and paper work. They will make small business impossible.
9 posted on 12/04/2004 2:43:08 PM PST by konaice
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
The VAT is a terrible idea for the USA. It makes sense in Europe, where raw material from one country might be made into intermediate products in a second and into consumer goods in a third. Each country gets to tax the "value added" in that country. If they had only a retail sales tax, the country in which the goods are sold would collect the entire tax; the countries in which partial work was done would collect nothing.

In the USA, a VAT might make sense for the states, allowing them to tax the portion of final value "added" in their state. But nationally there is no need for it. A Federal retail sales tax would capture the tax on the entire value of goods no matter in which state they were sold.

Not only is a Federal VAT unnecessary, as compared with a retail sales tax, it's a bad idea because the tax would be hidden. One of the virtues of a retail sales tax is that the taxpayer realizes it's being paid.

I once discussed the VAT with an economist from Vienna. He was complaining that trucks carrying goods from Germany to Italy used Austrian roads, but paid no taxes. I pointed out to him that according to the Austrian School of Economics (unfortunately there are no members of the Austrian School left in Austria), the trucks were adding value to the goods by moving them from where they weren't wanted to where they were, and Austria should apply a VAT. I don't know if he ever made the recommendation to the Austrian government. Nevertheless, that illustrates why the VAT makes sense in Europe.

10 posted on 12/04/2004 2:44:31 PM PST by JoeFromSidney (My book is out. Read excerpts at http://www.thejusticecooperative.com)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Sure, and tank the economy. Riiiight


11 posted on 12/04/2004 2:48:10 PM PST by Maigrey (Your job is to arrest the killers but if you kill them, then so be it. - Minister Allawi)
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To: JoeFromSidney
The VAT is a terrible idea for the USA. It makes sense in Europe, where raw material from one country might be made into intermediate products in a second and into consumer goods in a third.

You've only provided arguments for one side of your basic premis.

I see no reason why a VAT should not work in the USA, regardless of how much or how little of the value is added within country or in imports.

The fact that the "Tax is Hidden" is the big boogieman that everyone trots out, but nobody substanciates, and nobody seems to come up with much else.

12 posted on 12/04/2004 2:52:49 PM PST by konaice
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To: konaice

No need to "substanciate" the fact that the VAT is a hidden tax...because it IS a hidden tax...LOL...

Some things are so basic and self-evident that they don't need substantiation.

The real question is: "Are hidden taxes a bad thing"?

And the only answer reasonable people can arrive at when they examine that question is that they are bad. Very bad.

Transparent government is what is needed. Not more room for politicians and bureaucrats to play their insidious game of playing off one set of citizens and taxpayers against one another.

That is one of a plethora of reasons why I support the 100%
transparent and visible FairTax.

EV


13 posted on 12/04/2004 3:00:38 PM PST by EternalVigilance (The question is not: 'Is God on our side?', but, 'are we on God's side?')
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Bartlett has his head where the sun don't shine on this one. VAT is Euro-weasel Socialist-crat crp.

Keep it simple. Flat or consumption.

Moron.


14 posted on 12/04/2004 3:04:32 PM PST by x1stcav
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To: KwasiOwusu
The Bush tax cuts are precisely what saved us from the double whammy of the Klinton recession and the ravages of the economic effects of 9/11.

What the President inherited was an out of control Federal Reserve Chairman and the beginnings of a business spending depression (not a recession). Two problems he didn't recognize and cared to do nothing about. It was the 9/11 attacks that turned things around (take a look at a chart of the major stock market indices). They brought Greenspan around to his senses, but the President didn't come around until he saw the soft economy would threaten his reelection.

15 posted on 12/04/2004 3:05:49 PM PST by Moonman62 (Federal Creed: If it moves tax it. If it keeps moving regulate it. If it stops moving subsidize it.)
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To: konaice

You don't need a degree in economics to recognize the poison label on the VAT.


16 posted on 12/04/2004 3:07:04 PM PST by Reaganghost (Reagan could see the Renaissance coming, but it will be up to you to make it happen.)
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To: konaice
They will make small business impossible.

That's ridiculous.

First of all, over 80% of sales taxes are collected by large corporate retail businesses. All that will be required for them to implement the FairTax will be to reprogram their cash registers. That's it.

Secondly, as a former small retail businessman, I assure you that the sales tax is by far the simplest tax to collect and pay. A couple of lines in the form: Gross sales. Percentage collected and owed. Bam. Finished.

The idea that somehow the enforcement mechanism for enforcing this tax would in any way come anywhere close to the invasiveness of the income tax is a total crock.

And under the FairTax, the individual would have exactly 0% obligation at all to do or show anything.

17 posted on 12/04/2004 3:07:52 PM PST by EternalVigilance (The question is not: 'Is God on our side?', but, 'are we on God's side?')
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To: x1stcav
Bartlett has his head where the sun don't shine on this one. VAT is Euro-weasel Socialist-crat crp.

Amen.

Keep it simple.

Yep.

Flat or consumption.

The consumption tax is the only way to go.

If you flatten a cowpie, it's still a cowpie, and it still stinks.

Income taxes are fundamentally flawed from their conception, flat or otherwise.

19 posted on 12/04/2004 3:10:40 PM PST by EternalVigilance (The question is not: 'Is God on our side?', but, 'are we on God's side?')
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To: EternalVigilance
Secondly, as a former small retail businessman, I assure you that the sales tax is by far the simplest tax to collect and pay. A couple of lines in the form: Gross sales. Percentage collected and owed. Bam. Finished.

As a CURRENT small retailer I agree. But what have you EVER in your ENTIRE LIFE seen the US government get involved with that remains that simple.

There will be forms, and paperwork, and require proof, and audits, and source-of-Supply documentation, and waste documentation.

Its Naieve to think it won't be so, and be so in VERY short order.

20 posted on 12/04/2004 3:13:47 PM PST by konaice
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