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Mission to Mandate Teaching of Constitution Inserted Into Bill ('Sheets' Byrd "fighting tyranny")
LA Times ^ | 12/4/04 | Richard Simon And Emma Schwartz

Posted on 12/04/2004 8:49:30 AM PST by NormsRevenge

WASHINGTON — Sen. Robert C. Byrd (D-W.Va.), promoting his lifelong passion for the U.S. Constitution, has inserted into a massive federal spending bill a requirement that schools devote at least part of a day each year to teaching about the document.

The provision would apply to all schools, elementary through college, that receive federal aid. Education groups worry that the provision could be the opening wedge in a campaign by Washington to influence what schools teach.

Byrd carries a copy of the Constitution in his breast pocket — over his heart — and often waves it on the Senate floor. He lamented in a recent speech that even some of his colleagues in Congress didn't know fully what it said. "An informed public is our best defense against tyranny," he said.

The provision he inserted in the spending bill, which is expected to clear Congress next week, would require schools that receive federal funding to teach about the Constitution on Sept. 17 — a day that Byrd has sought, in separate legislation, to declare a national holiday to mark the anniversary of the document's signing in 1787.

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The legislation took education officials in the capital by surprise. While they did not contest the importance of teaching the Constitution, many expressed concern that Congress was overstepping its authority.

"It's the kind of intervention from the federal level that really has no place in our system of education," said Vincent Ferrandino, executive director of the National Assn. of Elementary School Principals. "If there is concern on the part of members of Congress that the Constitution is not being taught in our schools, I think that's an issue that ought to be raised in other venues."

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: byrd; civicseducation; constitution; fighting; inserted; mandate; mission; sheets; teaching; tyranny
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1 posted on 12/04/2004 8:49:30 AM PST by NormsRevenge
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To: NormsRevenge

Too bad none of these people that read the constitution notice the stark lack of provisions for a national education administration.


2 posted on 12/04/2004 8:51:30 AM PST by anobjectivist (Publically edumacated)
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To: NormsRevenge
It's the constitution.
But, it's Byrd.
But, it's the constitution.
But,
D'oh!
3 posted on 12/04/2004 9:01:27 AM PST by derheimwill (Tagline, Schmagline)
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To: NormsRevenge

I don't have any problem with old Sheets on this one, but I wish he'd do some reading too, since his memory of what the Constitution says seems to have failed him badly.


4 posted on 12/04/2004 9:01:51 AM PST by penowa
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To: NormsRevenge
Byrd carries a copy of the Constitution in his breast pocket

byrd's only real interest in the Constitution is to what means it can be manipulated to his benefit - personally, then politically.

5 posted on 12/04/2004 9:16:07 AM PST by Trepz
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To: jonestown

PLease refrain from posting your thread link on my threads.

Why don't you use your tagline or some other way to sell your concept, be it relevant or not. Thanks!

You have a profile page too, why not use it instead?


7 posted on 12/04/2004 9:21:39 AM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ...... The War on Terrorism is the ultimate 'faith-based' initiative.)
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To: NormsRevenge

Excellent idea Sen Byrd. -Tom


8 posted on 12/04/2004 9:29:55 AM PST by Capt. Tom (Don't confuse the Bushies with the dumb Republicans - Capt. Tom)
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To: Capt. Tom
Excellent idea Sen Byrd. -Tom

Yeah! Makes me wonder what's the catch!

9 posted on 12/04/2004 9:32:55 AM PST by Mr. Buzzcut (metal god)
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To: NormsRevenge

"It's the kind of intervention from the federal level that really has no place in our system of education,"

Let's see.

The Federal government established the 'federal school system', and yet, they have 'no place' in the education system?


Riiiigggghhhht!


10 posted on 12/04/2004 9:35:02 AM PST by Bigh4u2
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To: Bigh4u2
The Federal government established the 'federal school system', and yet, they have 'no place' in the education system? Riiiigggghhhht!

There is much wisdom in what you say. Now all you need to do is meditate on this until you find that wisdom, grasshopper.

11 posted on 12/04/2004 9:40:17 AM PST by Maceman (Too nuanced for a bumper sticker)
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To: NormsRevenge

It's a step in the right direction, IMO.


12 posted on 12/04/2004 9:42:50 AM PST by airborne (God bless and keep our fallen heroes.)
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To: Maceman

I agree that the federal government should get out of the 'business' off educating our kids by letting people get into private schools.

But for the 'teachers union' to complain about federal control over a (current) federal system is laughable.



13 posted on 12/04/2004 9:47:19 AM PST by Bigh4u2
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To: NormsRevenge

You asked:

Is it a Mission [of government] to Mandate Teaching of the Constitution?
I don't think Congress has that mandate. - Thus, "the proper role of government" is a valid comment on your question.



"If it were up to me as an individual to punish my neighbor for violating a given law, would it offend my conscience to do so?
Since my conscience will never permit me to physically punish my fellow man unless he has done something evil, or unless he has failed to do something which I have a moral right to require of him to do, I will never knowingly authorize my agent, the government to do this on my behalf."

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Great words, written by a truly wise but largely unknown American conservative.


14 posted on 12/04/2004 9:56:41 AM PST by jonestown ( JONESTOWN, TX http://www.tsha.utexas.edu/handbook/online/articles)
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To: NormsRevenge; Constitution Day

Sample study questions for Constitution Day (not you):

1. What secret society during its heyday in the late nineteenth and early twentieth centuries lobbied actively in the American South to deny blacks, Jews, Catholics and others their constitutional rights, often employing such gentle means as vandalism, arson and lynching?

2. What United States Senator now living (as of December 2004) was a member of that organization as a young man?

Answers below.


15 posted on 12/04/2004 9:58:39 AM PST by RichInOC (1. The Ku Klux Klan. 2. Robert Carlyle Byrd.)
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To: NormsRevenge
a requirement that schools devote at least part of a day each year to teaching about the document.

Sorry, Byrd, but I think the Constitution deserves just a little more than "part of a day each year".

If I had my way, the following course would be mandatory:

Someday I'd like to have the time to write the textbook. Lots of other stuff could be added to the historical section of the course, as well as discussion of deToqeville's commentaries as well, even though they were written long after the founding of hte Republic.

16 posted on 12/04/2004 10:04:40 AM PST by zeugma (Come to the Dark Side...... We have cookies!)
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To: zeugma; NormsRevenge

"a requirement that schools devote at least part of a day each year to teaching about the document."
norm

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If I had my way, the following course would be mandatory:
zeguma






Nice course, needs teaching, but 'mandatory' sticks in my craw.

From my thread on 'the proper role of government':



"I believe it a violation of the Constitution for government to deprive the individual of either life, liberty, or property except for these purposes:

(a) Punish crime and provide for the administration of justice;

(b) Protect the right and control of private property;

(c) Wage defensive war and provide for the nation's defense;

(d) Compel each one who enjoys the protection of government to bear his fair share of the burden of performing the above functions.

I hold that the Constitution denies government the power to take from the individual either his life, liberty, or property except in accordance with moral law; that the same moral law which governs the actions of men when acting alone is also applicable when they act in concert with others; that no citizen or group of citizens has any right to direct their agent, the government to perform any act which would be evil or offensive to the conscience if that citizen were performing the act himself outside the framework of government."

Ezra Taft Benson


17 posted on 12/04/2004 10:37:05 AM PST by jonestown ( JONESTOWN, TX http://www.tsha.utexas.edu/handbook/online/articles)
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To: NormsRevenge

Go man go! The Constitution is the most influential document since the Bible!


18 posted on 12/04/2004 11:07:25 AM PST by yldstrk (My heros have always been cowboys-Reagan and Bush)
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To: NormsRevenge

I'm sure the NEA will fit this in the curriculum between the course on the proper use of condoms and Johnny has two dads.


19 posted on 12/04/2004 11:42:18 AM PST by Search4Truth (When a man lies he murders some part of the world.)
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To: NormsRevenge; Born Conservative

BTTT


20 posted on 12/04/2004 11:46:03 AM PST by EdReform (Free Republic - helping to keep our country a free republic. Thank you for your financial support!)
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