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A threat to vaporize 100 Muslim cities
WorldNetDaily ^ | 12-03-04 | David C. Atkins

Posted on 12/03/2004 11:00:39 PM PST by ChristianDefender

Back in the days of the Cold War, the U.S. had a nuclear-weapons doctrine called Mutual Assured Destruction, or MAD for short. This doctrine held that if the U.S. were attacked with weapons of mass destruction, or WMD, we would immediately and without debate counter-attack the homeland of the perpetrator in such a way and with such overwhelming nuclear force as to make the cost of the initial attack too much to bear.

For instance, if the Soviet Union or the Chinese would have attacked us with WMD in the Cold War, we would have counter-attacked at the very least by destroying their 100 largest cities. The theory was that once you have destroyed the 100 largest cities of any society, even an evil empire, that society effectively ceases to exist, perhaps for several generations, thus deterring any WMD attack. Variations of this same nuclear doctrine were held by our Cold War allies and advisories, including the evil empire.

Although gruesome sounding, the beauty of MAD is that it worked. Even though both the U.S. and the Soviet Union were armed to the teeth with nuclear weapons, none was ever used. In fact, both sides went to great lengths to establish hardened and redundant command, communication and control systems to prevent the accidental or unauthorized launch of nuclear weapons, fearing the dire consequences.

The primary reason MAD worked is because it was simple and unambiguous. Both sides let the other side know in no uncertain terms that a nuclear first strike would be followed immediately by an overwhelming nuclear counter-strike destroying the heartland, culture and society of the attacker. This was a price even the most evil 20th century dictators would not even contemplate.

We now have a new enemy, Islamic terrorism, hellbent to either enslave or destroy us. This enemy is in many ways much harder to cope with than an evil empire. It does not have an army, an economy, an infrastructure, a capital or a state to attack. This enemy refuses to show itself on the field of battle so we can destroy it with our superior weapons and tactics.

However, Islamic terrorism could not exist if it did not enjoy comfort, support and succor from the Islamic societies from which its members are recruited. Besides the overt state support from Syria, Iran, pre-invasion Iraq, Libya, Sudan, North Korea, etc., this enemy also enjoys popular support in Islamic states. The popular support of the terrorists is much larger than it is politically correct to discuss in most forums in the West. But, does anyone doubt that bin Laden would be elected dictator-for-life in Saudi Arabia if that nation had free elections? Let's not allow political correctness to blind us or kill us. The terrorists are merely an extreme form of widespread corruption, totalitarianism and venality prevalent in Islamic states and societies worldwide.

Now, here is the urgent problem. The Islamic terrorists are seeking nuclear weapons to destroy us. If and when they acquire a nuclear weapon with the help of their state sponsors, they will use it in the U.S. homeland without warning. Can you imagine the effect of just one nuclear weapon being detonated in New York or Washington? In addition to the initial horrific destruction and casualties, the U.S. economy and perhaps the world economy would go into a depression that would make the Great Depression seem like Sunday school. Investment would stop for fear of further nuclear attacks. If they have one, maybe they have more? Our wealth would be dramatically reduced, and the economy would be in chaos for at least a generation. The American way of life would be dramatically altered, perhaps permanently. In short, the Islamic terrorists would win.

The stakes are as high as can be, and our current strategy of planting democracy in the Middle East may work too slowly or not work at all. How do we prevent that first nuclear attack and mobilize the world, even the Islamic societies, against the terrorists' nuclear ambitions? We need a new nuclear doctrine that puts everybody's skin in the game. We need a new nuclear doctrine that places the American people, the American society, the American economy and the American way of life far above politeness and political correctness.

I propose that the U.S. immediately adopt and publish the following nuclear doctrine:

In the event of a WMD attack by terrorists on the U.S. homeland or U.S. military facilities overseas, the U.S will immediately and without discussion use its immense nuclear weapons capabilities to destroy the 100 largest Islamic cities on earth, regardless of state, and destroy all of the military facilities of Islamic-dominated states. This will include all of the capitals and at least the 10 largest cities of all Islamic-dominated states and the "holy" cities of Mecca and Medina. In addition, North Korean cities and military installations will be destroyed. Now suddenly everybody from Casablanca, Cairo, Damascus, Riyadh, Tehran, Islamabad, Pyongyang and Jakarta have skin in the game. The last thing they want would be a WMD attack on the U.S. It would mean certain destruction of their societies. They might even be motivated to actually and feverishly work against Islamic terrorism instead of the tepid lip service they currently give. Those "freedom fighters" currently being cheered in the streets would be transformed to deadly threats in the very societies that spawned them.

The beauty of this doctrine is that it encourages the 1.2 billion Muslims to actually prove that they are adherents to a "religion of peace," and it holds all Islamic states and North Korea accountable for their behavior. If you don't want your cities on the target list, you have to earn your way off the list. Give us the head of bin Laden on a stick, and you may get a pass. Shut down your nuclear programs in an open and verifiable way, and you can earn your way off the target list.

Another advantage of this doctrine is that it doesn't cost a nickel. We have the necessary weapons and delivery systems in place. This would only require a fraction of our existing nuclear warheads. I presume the platform of choice would be Ohio-class ballistic missile submarines patrolling the Indian Ocean.

Of course, the hand wringers, peaceniks and leftist elites would shout and scream bloody murder about how aggressive, unfair and politically incorrect this doctrine appears. However, I believe it would accomplish the same thing as MAD – namely, the successful deterrence of nuclear holocaust. All we need is the will to declare it.


TOPICS: Editorial; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: coldwar; islam; mad; muslims; napalminthemorning; nukes; religionofpeace; ropma; terror; wmd; wot
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To: Nateman
The plan has one major flaw: Moslems the world over have made plenty of people mad at them. What if one of those angry parties sees this as a fast way to rid the world of this contagious metal disease and sets off a nuke here just to get the US to do their dirty work?

My thoughts exactly. Reminds me of when I was a kid and my mother caught my younger brother stealing cookies out of the cupboard. She told him that the next time there were missing cookies, that he "would really get it."

So that night, I snuck downstairs and helped myself to the whole darn box!

421 posted on 12/04/2004 4:04:53 AM PST by SamAdams76 (Red Sox Win The World Series...And Bush Wins Re-election Too!)
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To: ChristianDefender
Of course, the hand wringers, peaceniks and leftist elites would shout and scream bloody murder about how aggressive, unfair and politically incorrect this doctrine appears.

This would work and LEFTIST bedwetters can kiss my @$$ !
422 posted on 12/04/2004 4:12:37 AM PST by pyx (RULE #1 The LEFT lies. RULE #2 See RULE #1.)
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To: NoControllingLegalAuthority
There it is. I would only add that MAD also needed believable proselytizers like Kissinger to sell it to both sides.

There is no possibility of such an equivalent with a Muslim diaspora (although the deep irony is that in his wicked heart, Bin Laden wants to be Grand Caliph, which would thusly require the twin open targets of a seat of power and a standing army).

425 posted on 12/04/2004 4:18:16 AM PST by StAnDeliver
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To: antrix

Pakistan is not a responsible country. Pakistan has been selling nuclear secrets for years now.


426 posted on 12/04/2004 4:21:51 AM PST by expatguy (Fallujah Delenda Est!!)
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To: A Navy Vet
Number 4 on your list is the first thing that I have disagreed with you on this thread.

I believe that we have not been attacked again because of the present administration, and that they would know exactly what to do if a nuclear attack should occur..
428 posted on 12/04/2004 4:27:35 AM PST by Coldwater Creek ('We voted like we prayed")
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To: Happy2BMe


429 posted on 12/04/2004 4:29:20 AM PST by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP! ©)
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To: ChristianDefender
This harkens to the notion of training a mule: First thing you do is smack it upside the head with a two-by-four to get it's attention.

Meet our two-by-four: a promise, not a threat, but a promise.

Guess what. We all of a sudden would have their undivided attention, whine-fest from the United Nations notwithstanding.

431 posted on 12/04/2004 4:30:47 AM PST by mhking
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To: Melas
As an example: Italy was (officially) a catholic nation, and an Axis power. Should we have bombed a couple South American countries because they happened to be catholic as well? Of course not, it would have been stupid. Same here.

False dichotomy. Italy didn't commit their crimes in WW2 because of their faith. This enemy today is doing exactly that.

Would you rather have a fundamentalist Christian living next door, or an Islamic fundamentalist? The difference is in the book they take literally. It's a huge difference. see Prophet of Doom for more on the Koran.

432 posted on 12/04/2004 4:38:42 AM PST by ovrtaxt (Political correctness is the handmaiden of terrorism.)
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To: Strategerist
FR received wisdom

That's two direct insulting attacks at regular FReepers in three postings on this one subject and you've only been here for a few months.

You (and others like you who deem themselves more intelligent and sophisticated then the rest of us) might want to tone down your very obvious seething contempt for us regular folk in the heartland of America, before you piss too many of us off.

433 posted on 12/04/2004 4:39:20 AM PST by pyx (RULE #1 The LEFT lies. RULE #2 See RULE #1.)
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To: ChristianDefender
This whole thread is laughable; nothing but bluster, posturing and chest beating.

There is nothing we can do to prevent a nuclear holocaust in DC or NY as long as we remain a free society.

Within 24 hours, I can take a 35' sport fishing yacht 45 miles off of VA, pick up a 200 kiloton nuke, and transport it to the DC marina less than 1/2 mile from the WH and Capitol.

There are no systems in place to prevent the holocaust, and there never will be unless we destroy the very country we are trying to protect.

Our current method of cultural domination is succeeding through McDonalds and Starbucks etc. It will take another 50 years but the Islamists will be tamed through affluence (as in N. Ireland), global corporations and western civilization.


BUMP

434 posted on 12/04/2004 4:59:38 AM PST by tm22721 (In fac they)
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To: tm22721

YES!! Get them addicted to Starbucks, McDonalds and Kentucky Fried Chicken!! Also, put up some barbecue joints and fire up the barbecue fragrances around mealtime every day; oh, only, it'll have to be beef instead of pork. I wonder how many are able to resist the barbecued pork really? Decadence. Decadence.

I wish people would decide the world is a big enough place for everyone to live in peace, plant a garden, help each other, resolve differences, and shut up.


435 posted on 12/04/2004 5:12:41 AM PST by Twinkie
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To: ChristianDefender

Throw France, Red China and the Rooskies into the mix (much like early SIOP, where any nuke from anyone would have triggered a massive attack on everyone) and you've got the start of an idea.


436 posted on 12/04/2004 5:18:08 AM PST by steveegg (At this point, even Baghdad Bob has more credibility than Dan Blather)
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To: Petronski

Regarding: "MAD was directed at a power (a superpower) which could respond in kind. Nuking 100 cities is insane."

Reply: Let us not encumber our thoughts with yesterday's problems. I consider one and a half billion Muslims a SUPERPOWER. They may not have the industrial power or infrastructure to wage "OUR" kind of war, but they could instantaneously arm 100.000 suicidal Muslims with explosives, chemical, biological and radiological weapons. Without any doubt I believe Muslims will be arming their sex deprived lunatic jihadists with nuclear chastity belts.

The reasons offered for not nuking 100 Muslim cities is as unconscionable as Islam's Jihad with all non-Muslims, Christians and Jews. If we are to protect our children's freedom, our strategy should, at least, promise to all believers in Muhammad's Islam, all the pain that the Muhammad's lunatics intend for us. That means the Massive Attack and Perfect Destruction of all Muslim power.

I suggest you reexamine your interpretation of the word "superpower."


437 posted on 12/04/2004 5:19:30 AM PST by eakole
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To: ChristianDefender
This enemy is in many ways much harder to cope with than an evil empire. It does not have an army, an economy, an infrastructure, a capital or a state to attack. This enemy refuses to show itself on the field of battle so we can destroy it with our superior weapons and tactics.

If one were to try and formulate a profile to take on one's enemy, this would be a brilliant one. As much as I hate to admit, it is brilliant in it's efficiency.

438 posted on 12/04/2004 5:23:45 AM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (All I ask from livin' is to have no chains on me. All I ask from dyin' is to go naturally.)
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To: ChristianDefender
The popular support of the terrorists is much larger than it is politically correct to discuss in most forums in the West........Amen. The terrorists are nothing but the armies of mainstream, "peaceful" Islam.
439 posted on 12/04/2004 5:24:42 AM PST by bobsatwork
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To: hleewilder
In the event of a WMD attack by terrorists on the U.S. homeland or U.S. military facilities overseas, the U.S will immediately and without discussion use its immense nuclear weapons capabilities to destroy the 100 largest Islamic cities on earth, regardless of state, and destroy all of the military facilities of Islamic-dominated states.

I agree. As warm and cuddly as that doctrine makes me feel, it would have dire side effects. Not least of which would be that any American life, anywhere on the globe wouldn't be worth a wet slap. Especially our people in uniform. The Phillipines, Japan and Korea would all be places where wholesale slaughter of our people would take place even before the dust settles on what used to be Damascus.

440 posted on 12/04/2004 5:28:32 AM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (All I ask from livin' is to have no chains on me. All I ask from dyin' is to go naturally.)
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