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A threat to vaporize 100 Muslim cities
WorldNetDaily ^ | 12-03-04 | David C. Atkins

Posted on 12/03/2004 11:00:39 PM PST by ChristianDefender

Back in the days of the Cold War, the U.S. had a nuclear-weapons doctrine called Mutual Assured Destruction, or MAD for short. This doctrine held that if the U.S. were attacked with weapons of mass destruction, or WMD, we would immediately and without debate counter-attack the homeland of the perpetrator in such a way and with such overwhelming nuclear force as to make the cost of the initial attack too much to bear.

For instance, if the Soviet Union or the Chinese would have attacked us with WMD in the Cold War, we would have counter-attacked at the very least by destroying their 100 largest cities. The theory was that once you have destroyed the 100 largest cities of any society, even an evil empire, that society effectively ceases to exist, perhaps for several generations, thus deterring any WMD attack. Variations of this same nuclear doctrine were held by our Cold War allies and advisories, including the evil empire.

Although gruesome sounding, the beauty of MAD is that it worked. Even though both the U.S. and the Soviet Union were armed to the teeth with nuclear weapons, none was ever used. In fact, both sides went to great lengths to establish hardened and redundant command, communication and control systems to prevent the accidental or unauthorized launch of nuclear weapons, fearing the dire consequences.

The primary reason MAD worked is because it was simple and unambiguous. Both sides let the other side know in no uncertain terms that a nuclear first strike would be followed immediately by an overwhelming nuclear counter-strike destroying the heartland, culture and society of the attacker. This was a price even the most evil 20th century dictators would not even contemplate.

We now have a new enemy, Islamic terrorism, hellbent to either enslave or destroy us. This enemy is in many ways much harder to cope with than an evil empire. It does not have an army, an economy, an infrastructure, a capital or a state to attack. This enemy refuses to show itself on the field of battle so we can destroy it with our superior weapons and tactics.

However, Islamic terrorism could not exist if it did not enjoy comfort, support and succor from the Islamic societies from which its members are recruited. Besides the overt state support from Syria, Iran, pre-invasion Iraq, Libya, Sudan, North Korea, etc., this enemy also enjoys popular support in Islamic states. The popular support of the terrorists is much larger than it is politically correct to discuss in most forums in the West. But, does anyone doubt that bin Laden would be elected dictator-for-life in Saudi Arabia if that nation had free elections? Let's not allow political correctness to blind us or kill us. The terrorists are merely an extreme form of widespread corruption, totalitarianism and venality prevalent in Islamic states and societies worldwide.

Now, here is the urgent problem. The Islamic terrorists are seeking nuclear weapons to destroy us. If and when they acquire a nuclear weapon with the help of their state sponsors, they will use it in the U.S. homeland without warning. Can you imagine the effect of just one nuclear weapon being detonated in New York or Washington? In addition to the initial horrific destruction and casualties, the U.S. economy and perhaps the world economy would go into a depression that would make the Great Depression seem like Sunday school. Investment would stop for fear of further nuclear attacks. If they have one, maybe they have more? Our wealth would be dramatically reduced, and the economy would be in chaos for at least a generation. The American way of life would be dramatically altered, perhaps permanently. In short, the Islamic terrorists would win.

The stakes are as high as can be, and our current strategy of planting democracy in the Middle East may work too slowly or not work at all. How do we prevent that first nuclear attack and mobilize the world, even the Islamic societies, against the terrorists' nuclear ambitions? We need a new nuclear doctrine that puts everybody's skin in the game. We need a new nuclear doctrine that places the American people, the American society, the American economy and the American way of life far above politeness and political correctness.

I propose that the U.S. immediately adopt and publish the following nuclear doctrine:

In the event of a WMD attack by terrorists on the U.S. homeland or U.S. military facilities overseas, the U.S will immediately and without discussion use its immense nuclear weapons capabilities to destroy the 100 largest Islamic cities on earth, regardless of state, and destroy all of the military facilities of Islamic-dominated states. This will include all of the capitals and at least the 10 largest cities of all Islamic-dominated states and the "holy" cities of Mecca and Medina. In addition, North Korean cities and military installations will be destroyed. Now suddenly everybody from Casablanca, Cairo, Damascus, Riyadh, Tehran, Islamabad, Pyongyang and Jakarta have skin in the game. The last thing they want would be a WMD attack on the U.S. It would mean certain destruction of their societies. They might even be motivated to actually and feverishly work against Islamic terrorism instead of the tepid lip service they currently give. Those "freedom fighters" currently being cheered in the streets would be transformed to deadly threats in the very societies that spawned them.

The beauty of this doctrine is that it encourages the 1.2 billion Muslims to actually prove that they are adherents to a "religion of peace," and it holds all Islamic states and North Korea accountable for their behavior. If you don't want your cities on the target list, you have to earn your way off the list. Give us the head of bin Laden on a stick, and you may get a pass. Shut down your nuclear programs in an open and verifiable way, and you can earn your way off the target list.

Another advantage of this doctrine is that it doesn't cost a nickel. We have the necessary weapons and delivery systems in place. This would only require a fraction of our existing nuclear warheads. I presume the platform of choice would be Ohio-class ballistic missile submarines patrolling the Indian Ocean.

Of course, the hand wringers, peaceniks and leftist elites would shout and scream bloody murder about how aggressive, unfair and politically incorrect this doctrine appears. However, I believe it would accomplish the same thing as MAD – namely, the successful deterrence of nuclear holocaust. All we need is the will to declare it.


TOPICS: Editorial; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: coldwar; islam; mad; muslims; napalminthemorning; nukes; religionofpeace; ropma; terror; wmd; wot
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To: antrix

Nuke meccca and madinah andIslamc ceases to exist, it's disproven, shown to be a sham -- muslimes have no raison d'être, nothing.


381 posted on 12/04/2004 3:16:19 AM PST by Cronos (Never forget 9/11)
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To: expatguy

You must make a LOT of money to put up with that. I'd not do it for any cash amount. How can you live with yourself as a dhimmi?


382 posted on 12/04/2004 3:17:09 AM PST by Kornev
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To: Howlin; Ed_NYC; MonroeDNA; widgysoft; Springman; Timesink; dubyaismypresident; Grani; coug97; ...
In the event of a WMD attack by terrorists on the U.S. homeland or U.S. military facilities overseas, the U.S will immediately and without discussion use its immense nuclear weapons capabilities to destroy the 100 largest Islamic cities on earth, regardless of state, and destroy all of the military facilities of Islamic-dominated states. This will include all of the capitals and at least the 10 largest cities of all Islamic-dominated states and the "holy" cities of Mecca and Medina. In addition, North Korean cities and military installations will be destroyed.

I like it.

"You zot us, we zot you."

Or to put it more succinctly, and to learn from history:

"You wanna know how you do it? Here's how, they pull a knife, you pull a gun. He sends one of yours to the hospital, you send on of his to the morgue! That's the Chicago way, and that's how you get Capone!"

Just damn.

If you want on the list, FReepmail me. This IS a high-volume PING list...

383 posted on 12/04/2004 3:19:09 AM PST by mhking
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To: Kornev
Funny how these asians got suckered to following such a primitive arab tribal system.

yawn, and there are millions of Europeans (Bosnians, Albanians, Azeris etc.) who are Muslimes too.

Pakistan, Afghanistan, Iran, etc. were lands conquered by Islamm and forced to convert -- just as Syria and Egypt were majority Christian lands until the 7th century and even later.

Indonesia however was converted peacefully byMuslim traders -- because the Dutch couldn't be bothered converting people. Oh, if only the Spanish had reached there and taken over the psice island instead of hte Dutch then we would have had a christian nation like the Phillipines. Ditto for the Portuguese if they had taken over the entire Indian sub-continent.
384 posted on 12/04/2004 3:19:31 AM PST by Cronos (Never forget 9/11)
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To: Kornev; ALASKA

sneaking it in will do as well -- the Sunnis will then blame the Shias while the Shias will point fingers at the Sunnis and the Ismailis and Sufis will point fingers at everyone else. TOtalIslamic civil war. Nice!


385 posted on 12/04/2004 3:20:44 AM PST by Cronos (Never forget 9/11)
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To: Kornev; expatguy; Destro

That's the fate we left for our Eatern brothers whenISlam conquered Syria, Egypt etc.


386 posted on 12/04/2004 3:21:21 AM PST by Cronos (Never forget 9/11)
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To: Cronos

Yeah.. But they had to have some goofy belief system before islam. Just makes me wonder how they fell for that islam in the end.

I mean, all people appear to need some organized religion to get by on. Oh well. I'm sure whatever those asians had before islam was better.


387 posted on 12/04/2004 3:22:02 AM PST by Kornev
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To: Cronos

Good posts by you here. I would rate it 80% chance Islam crumbles when Mecca and Medina are obliterated. IT will throw Muhammad's flat earth cult into such a nose dive that most would convert to Christianity or Judaism with little prodding.


389 posted on 12/04/2004 3:22:58 AM PST by dennisw (G_D: Against Amelek for all generations)
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To: hleewilder
Since this would be a similar, yet different policy and would be applied to a different situation, I think it should be called something else. We could still call it MAD, let's just let the acronym mean MUSLIM ASSURED DESTRUCTION.
390 posted on 12/04/2004 3:23:00 AM PST by ALASKA (I'm not broke, but you can see the cracks...................)
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To: Cronos

I suppose some Jews made a good deal of cash when the nazis came in too :(

To be a willing dhimmi.. Unbelievable.


391 posted on 12/04/2004 3:23:16 AM PST by Kornev
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To: ChristianDefender
I tired to think of a way to put "mind-numbingly stupid", "maniacal", "sooner bj Bill Clinton" and "calling it a plan thought up by a retarded gibbon is an insult to retarded gibbons everywhere" into a cohesive essay on why this plan is the worst idea that I'd ever heard dreamed up by the drunken crack monkeys who apparently pass as editors over at WingNutDaily.

Eventually the utter absurdity of the plan foiled any attempt to rationally debunk it, so I'll just let the quotes stand by themselves.

Ahem...

"Mind-numbingly stupid."

"Maniacal."

Sooner bj Bill Clinton."

"Calling it a plan thought up by a retarded gibbon is an insult to retarded gibbons everywhere."

The only thing more depressing than the fact that this article was published was the number of "Amen brother's" that it got here on FR. What kind of unholy drugs are you people on?

392 posted on 12/04/2004 3:24:57 AM PST by Zeroisanumber
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To: Kornev
Well, I think Indonesia was mostly primitive Hindu (as opposed to the higher, more philosophical hinduism practised in India) beforeIslam. They were converted when an Indian king conquered and converted the islands around 200 A.D. However, their beliefs were always pretty primitive. Malays were not Hidnus but animists before Islamm.

And remember -- Asians include Arabs, Jews, Indians, Central Asians, South East Asians, Eastern Russians, Chinese etc. That's too generic a term. You want to call them something, then call Indonesians-Malaysians South East Asians. The South Asians from the Indian continent were converted by force
393 posted on 12/04/2004 3:25:30 AM PST by Cronos (Never forget 9/11)
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To: Kornev
I have travelled,lived and worked in several different countries. I view it really as learning to be polite and respect the culture.

Like I said, I am a 'guest' here and there are times when the foreigners like myself who live and work here are gently reminded that we are 'guests'.

But believe it or not, but there are a few things that I have learned to appreciate by living in an authoritative democracy. For example, I like the way both Malaysia and Singapore deal with illegal aliens. They catch them put them in a camp and then periodically deport them.

394 posted on 12/04/2004 3:26:06 AM PST by expatguy (Fallujah Delenda Est!!)
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To: Kornev

What choice do our brethern in theMuslime world have? (And there are some Christians in IRan and 2% of Egypt IS Christian)


395 posted on 12/04/2004 3:26:55 AM PST by Cronos (Never forget 9/11)
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To: expatguy

There may be good things, and you list an example.

But to be a dhimmi.. Wow.


396 posted on 12/04/2004 3:27:02 AM PST by Kornev
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To: Cronos

"What choice do our brethern in theMuslime world have"

Get the hell out! Like I said, I would not take any amount of salary to live in an islamic nation for even a day.


397 posted on 12/04/2004 3:28:01 AM PST by Kornev
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To: expatguy
Please don't nuke Malaysia, Im freeping from here.

They always said communism couldn't be exported to tropical places such as Cuba due to the  population's tropical temperament.

I'm hoping Indonesia and Malaysia are similar. They make a good show of being serious slaves of Allah. But that their Muhammedanism really isn't that ingrained.

398 posted on 12/04/2004 3:28:41 AM PST by dennisw (G_D: Against Amelek for all generations)
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Well, what I've heard is that the majority of islamics on the world are now asian. Right now I can't remember the breakdowns of the populations.

APPROXIMATE:
150 million in Indonesia
170 million Pakistan
140 million in India
100 million Malaysia

399 posted on 12/04/2004 3:29:30 AM PST by dennisw (G_D: Against Amelek for all generations)
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To: dennisw

I think you're wrong, they are quite serious submitters.


400 posted on 12/04/2004 3:29:50 AM PST by Kornev
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