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A threat to vaporize 100 Muslim cities
WorldNetDaily ^ | 12-03-04 | David C. Atkins

Posted on 12/03/2004 11:00:39 PM PST by ChristianDefender

Back in the days of the Cold War, the U.S. had a nuclear-weapons doctrine called Mutual Assured Destruction, or MAD for short. This doctrine held that if the U.S. were attacked with weapons of mass destruction, or WMD, we would immediately and without debate counter-attack the homeland of the perpetrator in such a way and with such overwhelming nuclear force as to make the cost of the initial attack too much to bear.

For instance, if the Soviet Union or the Chinese would have attacked us with WMD in the Cold War, we would have counter-attacked at the very least by destroying their 100 largest cities. The theory was that once you have destroyed the 100 largest cities of any society, even an evil empire, that society effectively ceases to exist, perhaps for several generations, thus deterring any WMD attack. Variations of this same nuclear doctrine were held by our Cold War allies and advisories, including the evil empire.

Although gruesome sounding, the beauty of MAD is that it worked. Even though both the U.S. and the Soviet Union were armed to the teeth with nuclear weapons, none was ever used. In fact, both sides went to great lengths to establish hardened and redundant command, communication and control systems to prevent the accidental or unauthorized launch of nuclear weapons, fearing the dire consequences.

The primary reason MAD worked is because it was simple and unambiguous. Both sides let the other side know in no uncertain terms that a nuclear first strike would be followed immediately by an overwhelming nuclear counter-strike destroying the heartland, culture and society of the attacker. This was a price even the most evil 20th century dictators would not even contemplate.

We now have a new enemy, Islamic terrorism, hellbent to either enslave or destroy us. This enemy is in many ways much harder to cope with than an evil empire. It does not have an army, an economy, an infrastructure, a capital or a state to attack. This enemy refuses to show itself on the field of battle so we can destroy it with our superior weapons and tactics.

However, Islamic terrorism could not exist if it did not enjoy comfort, support and succor from the Islamic societies from which its members are recruited. Besides the overt state support from Syria, Iran, pre-invasion Iraq, Libya, Sudan, North Korea, etc., this enemy also enjoys popular support in Islamic states. The popular support of the terrorists is much larger than it is politically correct to discuss in most forums in the West. But, does anyone doubt that bin Laden would be elected dictator-for-life in Saudi Arabia if that nation had free elections? Let's not allow political correctness to blind us or kill us. The terrorists are merely an extreme form of widespread corruption, totalitarianism and venality prevalent in Islamic states and societies worldwide.

Now, here is the urgent problem. The Islamic terrorists are seeking nuclear weapons to destroy us. If and when they acquire a nuclear weapon with the help of their state sponsors, they will use it in the U.S. homeland without warning. Can you imagine the effect of just one nuclear weapon being detonated in New York or Washington? In addition to the initial horrific destruction and casualties, the U.S. economy and perhaps the world economy would go into a depression that would make the Great Depression seem like Sunday school. Investment would stop for fear of further nuclear attacks. If they have one, maybe they have more? Our wealth would be dramatically reduced, and the economy would be in chaos for at least a generation. The American way of life would be dramatically altered, perhaps permanently. In short, the Islamic terrorists would win.

The stakes are as high as can be, and our current strategy of planting democracy in the Middle East may work too slowly or not work at all. How do we prevent that first nuclear attack and mobilize the world, even the Islamic societies, against the terrorists' nuclear ambitions? We need a new nuclear doctrine that puts everybody's skin in the game. We need a new nuclear doctrine that places the American people, the American society, the American economy and the American way of life far above politeness and political correctness.

I propose that the U.S. immediately adopt and publish the following nuclear doctrine:

In the event of a WMD attack by terrorists on the U.S. homeland or U.S. military facilities overseas, the U.S will immediately and without discussion use its immense nuclear weapons capabilities to destroy the 100 largest Islamic cities on earth, regardless of state, and destroy all of the military facilities of Islamic-dominated states. This will include all of the capitals and at least the 10 largest cities of all Islamic-dominated states and the "holy" cities of Mecca and Medina. In addition, North Korean cities and military installations will be destroyed. Now suddenly everybody from Casablanca, Cairo, Damascus, Riyadh, Tehran, Islamabad, Pyongyang and Jakarta have skin in the game. The last thing they want would be a WMD attack on the U.S. It would mean certain destruction of their societies. They might even be motivated to actually and feverishly work against Islamic terrorism instead of the tepid lip service they currently give. Those "freedom fighters" currently being cheered in the streets would be transformed to deadly threats in the very societies that spawned them.

The beauty of this doctrine is that it encourages the 1.2 billion Muslims to actually prove that they are adherents to a "religion of peace," and it holds all Islamic states and North Korea accountable for their behavior. If you don't want your cities on the target list, you have to earn your way off the list. Give us the head of bin Laden on a stick, and you may get a pass. Shut down your nuclear programs in an open and verifiable way, and you can earn your way off the target list.

Another advantage of this doctrine is that it doesn't cost a nickel. We have the necessary weapons and delivery systems in place. This would only require a fraction of our existing nuclear warheads. I presume the platform of choice would be Ohio-class ballistic missile submarines patrolling the Indian Ocean.

Of course, the hand wringers, peaceniks and leftist elites would shout and scream bloody murder about how aggressive, unfair and politically incorrect this doctrine appears. However, I believe it would accomplish the same thing as MAD – namely, the successful deterrence of nuclear holocaust. All we need is the will to declare it.


TOPICS: Editorial; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: coldwar; islam; mad; muslims; napalminthemorning; nukes; religionofpeace; ropma; terror; wmd; wot
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To: Smokin' Joe

why not just go back to the Constitutional limits on Federal Authority

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Who doesn't want that? (snicker)


321 posted on 12/04/2004 2:26:39 AM PST by ApesForEvolution (You will NEVER convince me that Muhammadanism isn't a death cult that must end. Save your time...)
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To: Kornev

Pre-wmd attack mode? Okay, so where do we focus our pre-emptive strike? Iran's facilities? I'm with you. The operation should go as soon as militarily feasible.


One hundred muslim cities? That's insane.


322 posted on 12/04/2004 2:28:14 AM PST by Petronski (WARNING: Persons denying the existence of Robots may be Robots themselves.)
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To: Kornev; Petronski
MAD wasn't nuking of 1000 cities. And besides -- petronski's point is that -- when we threatened the USSR, we KNEW they had logical people there (like Stings song "Don't the Russians have children too?") who would NOT want to wish destruction on themselves.

The enemies we face now have no such logic -- they wouldn't mind dying for their ideology. If we destroy the ideology, we destroy their reason for dying and for killing. That IS the only way

Nuking or threatening to nuke cities would work with a logical enemy as it did during the cold war.
323 posted on 12/04/2004 2:29:05 AM PST by Cronos (Never forget 9/11)
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To: Cronos

That's why total pre-emption is the only answer.


324 posted on 12/04/2004 2:30:35 AM PST by Kornev
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To: A Navy Vet
So, as much as I don't want to see the mass extermination of a culture...I would rather it be them than us. It's called survival.

oh, I believe in the extermination of so-called Islammic 'Kultur', but remember that roundign them up and exterminating the followers son't do that. Nuking 100 cities would be excessive. Destroying the basis of the cult WOULD be the way to destroy it.
326 posted on 12/04/2004 2:32:08 AM PST by Cronos (Never forget 9/11)
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To: ApesForEvolution
If Mecca/Medina go up first, then, their god LOSES!

Exactly. And we should do that NOW. WHy have more deaths (both our own and theirs) when we can destroy the cult and save those 1.2 billion?
327 posted on 12/04/2004 2:33:27 AM PST by Cronos (Never forget 9/11)
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To: Kornev; Admin Moderator
I could care less about 1 mooselimb city, much less 100.

Much like Hitler or Stalin. Sickening.

Don't you know how many people live in a city? You have no compunction about vaporizing them?

If that is true, I recommend you be banned as a homicidal personality (and btw NO conservative).

328 posted on 12/04/2004 2:34:01 AM PST by Petronski (WARNING: Persons denying the existence of Robots may be Robots themselves.)
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To: Kornev

Exactly -- nuke Mecca and Medina NOW. No threats, no nothing. We do it NOW


329 posted on 12/04/2004 2:34:35 AM PST by Cronos (Never forget 9/11)
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To: Kornev
I could care less about 1 mooselimb city, much less 100.

Oh, I would -- I wouldnt' want to see Constantinople or Cairo or Damascus or Shiraz or Fez destroyed. THat would be barbaric
330 posted on 12/04/2004 2:35:31 AM PST by Cronos (Never forget 9/11)
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To: Petronski

They will not mind vaporizing ours.


331 posted on 12/04/2004 2:35:50 AM PST by Kornev
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To: Kornev
They will not mind vaporizing ours.

GRanted. So, we eliminate the cult. That is what you want, correct? We eliminate the cult by castrating the two centres. And we do it NOW. We save 1.2 billion lives and our own. Win-Win.
332 posted on 12/04/2004 2:37:17 AM PST by Cronos (Never forget 9/11)
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To: Cronos

Well, this guy is threating me with bans, so I'm out. I guess I hit a free speach zone by wanting islam to go away and stop wanting to kill infidels at whatever cost.


333 posted on 12/04/2004 2:38:27 AM PST by Kornev
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To: Melas
This is not the first time that you have mistakingly and might I put, naively refered to Islam as a religion in one of the various threads here at freerepublic.

Islam is not a religion. It is an ideology cloaked by a blanket of perceived religion in order to conceal its true nature and that is the political and social controls over society through a strict ideology.

Before you reply, think and answer this. What is the difference between an idealogy and a religion?

Would you say that Christianity, Islam, Scientology, Hinduism, Judaism, the Church of Satan, and the Church of Homer Simpson are all religions and all equal?

334 posted on 12/04/2004 2:39:02 AM PST by expatguy (Fallujah Delenda Est!!)
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To: Kornev

Please don't nuke Malaysia, Im freeping from here.


335 posted on 12/04/2004 2:42:41 AM PST by expatguy (Fallujah Delenda Est!!)
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To: expatguy

heh, I hope you can escape soon. Is it a 'sane' place?


336 posted on 12/04/2004 2:44:36 AM PST by Kornev
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To: expatguy; Kornev; Petronski
A voice of reason. Why don't we summarise what we DO all agree on?

1. That Islamis evil
2. That it is threatening the US

Now, as expat has led the way, why don't we list out exactly WHY it is evil in a nice, civilsed way.
337 posted on 12/04/2004 2:45:55 AM PST by Cronos (Never forget 9/11)
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To: hleewilder
I'm sorry, but that's way over the line.

OK, we got 2,000,000 dead in New York City, 4,000,000 wounded and 14,000,000 exposed to high levels of radiation.

And your answer is deportation?

Get real.
338 posted on 12/04/2004 2:47:03 AM PST by Beckwith (John Kerry is now a kept man . . .)
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To: expatguy

Shouldn't it be Delenda est Fallujah?


339 posted on 12/04/2004 2:47:53 AM PST by Cronos (Never forget 9/11)
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To: Kornev

Malaysia IS sane -- it does have substantial Hindu, Christian minorites and these are mostly ethnic Indians and Chinese


340 posted on 12/04/2004 2:48:31 AM PST by Cronos (Never forget 9/11)
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