A threat to vaporize 100 Muslim cities

WorldNetDaily ^ | 12-03-04 | David C. Atkins

[asgardshill]

I don't believe he was talking about First Strike.

Irrelevant. The effects I described would occur even if it is second strike, third strike, or fourth strike.

[Cronos]

Good point

Melas "What next? Lutherans when you don't like them? Atheists, scientologists (scratch that, that might be a good idea), methodists?"

Vet: Oh please. That tired arguement is getting old. Baptists, Lutherans, Presbyterians, Protestants, Mormons, Catholics, agnostics, humanists, atheists, scientologists, and for that matter, secularists (other than a few whackjobs) are not blowing up innocent men, women, and CHILDREN around the world. Wake up and realize who the enemy is. It IS Islamofacists, who insist you convert or die or slowly be taken over by Shar'ia law, which amounts to the same. Do some research.

Melas -- how CAN you even compare the two? There is no comparison. HAve you even read whatIslam did to the formerly christian lands of Egypt, Syria, the Balkans, Anatolia, etc? Have you heard of the Armenian genocide? Do you know that even the Christians and Jews were treated comparatively better than the hindus and buddhists (as C & J are people of the book) -- with 100 million + Hindus being slaughtered in the years whenIslam ravaged the sub-continent?

DO you know that even today Christians in Turkey and Egypt cannot repair their churchs without government permission that never comes? Did you know that in manyIslamic countries a muslime can accuse you of blasphemy and you will be accused (because his word is worth more than yours)? Did you know that in Saudi A, if you wear a cross you can be arrested? That churchs, temples, etc are illegal?

[Kornev]

The brain washed masses of islam are no more concern than the brain washed masses of Japan. We wiped off their imperial symbols off their rifles and everything else. Surprise, it worked.

[Cronos]

Then to h*** with oil -- in any case we do have oil fields in Alaska, Siberia, VEnezuala, Nigeria, Angola etc.

[Prophet in the wilderness]

I say,, we take on IRAN and N Korea in the next year or 2.
I heard some reports, that Iran can have a Nuke in 5 months, is that true ? did anyone else hear that report in the news ?

[TheTwelvePack]

Am I the only one who realizes that these whack jobs are completely ready to die for their cause and that they only way to get rid of them is to hunt them done one by one? To the this is already a 2000 year old war and as long as they will they'll be fine with a 20,000 year one.

[chuckwalla]

A few nutbars wearing towels on their heads that practice a different religion.

Are you insane?

Pull your head out and wipe it off and take a look around before you say such ignorant things.

[Smokin' Joe]

Japan had much more than Pearl Harbor on the dance card. Japan was fighting a war of conquest which got far enough to threaten Australia, and we were, quite possibly, the next stop. The rape of Nanking alone was enough reason to atop the Japanese onslaught. In addition, the Japanese and Nazis were allies, at that point, whatever was necessary would be done.

You can debate wheether or not Hiroshima and Nagasaki were necessary, but in the conventional wisdom of the day, the two bombings (shock and awe) ended the war without massive Japanese national infrastructure destruction, and probably save millions of lives, both combatant and civillian. Ensuing policies enabled Japan to become an economic power in relatively short order, and kept the Japanese from being sucked into the communist Bloc.

[Kornev]

nk probably has 10+ implosion type bombs now. It's a disaster of epic talk.

Iran is probably damn close to one, and maybe a few gun types.

And from what I've seen, testing is not really needed. There's enough tech to test nukes in subcritical tests that they know they will work.

[Cronos]

Why not? Islamm is an evil cult that holds many people in its grip who can't escape. This cult is centred in Mecca and Medina. This cult believes it is destined to win and win and win (enforced by the fact that Islm never lost from 620 right up until the battle of Poitiers). Nuking Mecca and Medina destroys this myth AND destroys the control the mullahs and ayatollahs have over the people.

The people rebel and leave.

No moreIslam, no more muslimes -- i don't care if the folks become Buddhists or Jains -- no more jihadis.

Win win situation

[SideoutFred]

The point is the threat, not the deed. At least that's how I see it. No one wants to do what is being suggested, at least not any sane person. At most definitely not pre-emptively.

Either that or I think you say if a nuclear device explodes in this country, the origins of that device and the people reponsible for detonating it are all subject to reprisal in the same fashion.

Again, no one wants to do it, but without that deterrent, what other choice do you have. I'm all ears and hopeful that there are better alternatives out there. Unfortunately, I fear in my lifetime or my kids lifetime this scenario gets played out and we will have to make some kind of decision.

[A Navy Vet]

" The Muslims in say Turkey or Indonesia have absolutely no control over a cell of fanatics from Afghanistan, or Saudi or Iraq."

Wrong. Their governments should and can "control" the numerous fanactical cells from wherever. Understood that they can't control every fanatic, but organized "cells" withing an organized terrorist organization can be minimilized...the US has already done it.

They are either with us or against us. This is a worldwide war against nationally sponsored and nationally ignored barbarism. They need to choose sides. They have the political and military power to do so. If not, then let them fall into the ash heap of history, like so many side-lined sovereigntys have done.

[asgardshill]

Are you insane?

The delicious irony of that accusation coming from the keyboard of somebody who apparently supports nuking every Muslim country on the planet is just too much.

[Kornev]

islam is not just fighting the USA, but Russian and India and Israel. Oh and 9/11 too.

I was saying just attacks on the USA that we retaliated against. islam is easily as bad as 30's Japan, but 30's Japan was only bad for a few decades.. islam has been worse for 1400 years.

[Smokin' Joe]

Exactly. Just put one on Mecca and let 'em pray to the 4 winds.

[Cronos]

Perhaps such a total destruction of mecca could break its back from global conquest, but who knows

yes it would -- read the Koran, read the Hadith, read the tales Muslimes weave about the invincibility of Islam and how it is centred around Makkah and MAdinah. Nuke these and you hit the heart of the hydra. It then dies.

[Gum Shoe]

Wow...so many Freeper on Freeper flames on this one.

I've read many eloquent responses to the original post. I have a question I'd like answered. Food for thought and discussion mostly. A day may come, when we may have to make some desperate decisions in response to a desperate situation. What do we do if one (or more) of our cities is nuked by an Islamofacist bomb delivered by UBL operatives? Just cleanup and go about what's left of our business? I'm listening...

[Cronos]

Would not such an event ultimately be a mercy for the billion or so hell-bound muslims around the world? Will we be ready to evanglize 'em after their demon-spawned faith is discredited? (How hard is it to learn Arabic?)

It would be a mercy for them -- I feel personally that the IRanis would convert to Zoroastrianism (many want to do so already but are afraid of the Ayatollahs), the rest would be searching. ARabic isn't too hard to learn.

[Kornev]

I believe that as well. Take out their top sites.. And let Israel rule the temple mount, and you'd have a billion people utterly wrecked.

A lot of them would just take it like Bush beating kerry.. They had their entire lives wasted. Big deal.

[Petronski]

I knew you would say that. But the analogy does not apply.


Hiroshima and Nagasaki were cities largely untouched by allied bombing but nonetheless larded with craftsman-style arms production. Prime fair targets were these.

And how many American forces did the Japanese kill in the war they declared on us before LeMay unleashed hell?

There are sundry differences that should not be forgotten. The hell unleashed on Hiroshima or Nagasaki (80k to 100k dead) were not so unscalar with what Japan unleashed on Nanking or the other occupied regions.

But you are potentially talking about a dirty bomb that might kill thousands and cause $20 billion in damages (including real estate, cleanup, healthcare, etc), and you are talking about liquidating the population of how many cities with MIRVed thermonuclear weapons?

What you describe is not proportional, and thus is insanely immoral.