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Republicans warn of party split over immigration
THE WASHINGTON TIMES ^ | 12/03/04 | Stephen Dinan

Posted on 12/03/2004 10:10:21 AM PST by gubamyster

By Stephen Dinan

THE WASHINGTON TIMES

When House Republicans blocked the intelligence overhaul bill two weeks ago, some congressional Republicans say they were showing President Bush he will split the party if he goes ahead with his broader immigration-reform plan.

"It would cause a break in the party that would be extremely unhealthy for the party," said Rep. Tom Tancredo, Colorado Republican and chairman of the Congressional Immigration Reform Caucus. "I can tell you right now, the feelings are deep. This is not a superficial argument with the president.

"We were all willing to shut up during the campaign. We were not going to attack the president. But the campaign is over with and the gloves are off on this issue," Mr. Tancredo said.

He echoed the sentiments of several Republicans who emerged from a House Republican Conference discussion Nov. 20 on the intelligence bill, which they insist include strict national standards to ensure illegal aliens don't acquire driver's licenses.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aliens; borders; bushamnesty; gop; gopmodsquad; illegals; immigrantlist; immigration; nationalsecurity; rino; saveourlicenses; vincenteiscorrupt; waronterror; youdontsay
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To: RKV
So, the religious right can stay in the party and get a portion of their agenda, or it can stay home and get nothing, or it can start a third party and get nothing, or it can go DemocRAT and get nothing.

Exactly.

261 posted on 12/03/2004 9:47:09 PM PST by Jorge
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To: gubamyster

Ping for follow-up


262 posted on 12/03/2004 9:48:05 PM PST by AnimalLover ((Are there special rules and regulations for the big guys?))
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To: MegaSilver
Of course, in the end, even they won't be able to buy their way out of the trouble. Just imagine the shock on their faces ten years from now when their vast corporate empires collapse in the midst of a civil war and they learn the hard lesson that multiculturalism doesn't work.

I see the future unfolding in a similar way. When I say Insanity it is to your above to which I refer. Perhaps "pure unmitigated greed" is a better description.

263 posted on 12/03/2004 10:10:16 PM PST by WRhine (When America ceases to make manufactured goods, what do we trade with the rest of the world?)
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To: TXBSAFH; Ed Current

PING


264 posted on 12/03/2004 10:17:00 PM PST by Paperdoll
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To: ApesForEvolution; JohnHuang2; keri; international american; Kay Soze; jpsb; hershey; TomInNJ; ...
We're ONE BIG HAPPY FAMILY AGAIN - ping.

(Now that the election is over and daddy kept his job, the kids can go back to their homework and the grownups can get back to our single most important and crucial issues - BORDER CONTROL AND IMMIGRATION REFORM.)

Hey. What goods' a country if it ain't got no border? Why worry about Islmic terrorists if they can slip in the back door at will?

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"We were all willing to shut up during the campaign. We were not going to attack the president. But the campaign is over with and the gloves are off on this issue," Mr. Tancredo said.

265 posted on 12/03/2004 10:37:01 PM PST by Happy2BMe (It's not quite time to rest - John Kerry is still out there (and so is Hillary))
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To: Happy2BMe

"We were all willing to shut up during the campaign. We were not going to attack the president. But the campaign is over with and the gloves are off on this issue," Mr. Tancredo said.

Amen to that. I am not willing to let America degenerate into the turd-world that these illegals fled from. Nor am I happy with a border that Islamic terrorists can just walk over.


266 posted on 12/03/2004 10:53:59 PM PST by broadsword (When Islam creeps into a human society, oppression, misogyny and terror come hard on its heels.)
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To: Modernman

Shouldn't you be over on the democrat's board?


267 posted on 12/03/2004 11:02:37 PM PST by Recall
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To: WRhine

You said it well...you said it all.


268 posted on 12/03/2004 11:27:17 PM PST by ApesForEvolution (You will NEVER convince me that Muhammadanism isn't a death cult that must end. Save your time...)
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To: broadsword

Thankfully we have some Americans in the House of Representatives...


269 posted on 12/03/2004 11:29:13 PM PST by ApesForEvolution (You will NEVER convince me that Muhammadanism isn't a death cult that must end. Save your time...)
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To: MegaSilver; All

Well, then. I'll see you all down the road.

God bless and God's speed...


270 posted on 12/03/2004 11:32:38 PM PST by ApesForEvolution (You will NEVER convince me that Muhammadanism isn't a death cult that must end. Save your time...)
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To: sauropod
I can't believe you voted w/o knowing this was part of the deal.

I couldn't vote for him this time, 'pod. I voted for Peroutka in protest.

271 posted on 12/03/2004 11:34:40 PM PST by janetgreen (CLOSE THE MEXICAN BORDER!!!)
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To: ApesForEvolution; broadsword; Smartass
Houston - WE HAVE A WIDE OPEN BORDER HERE.
272 posted on 12/03/2004 11:41:27 PM PST by Happy2BMe (It's not quite time to rest - John Kerry is still out there (and so is Hillary))
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To: Happy2BMe; Tancredo Fan; MeekOneGOP; PhilDragoo; potlatch; ntnychik; Travis McGee; Smartass



Those who say efficient quick electronic checks cannot work are lying - Witness the VISA & Master Card checks and clerks cutting bad risk cards in half right in front of the customers in stores

Same can be done with driver's licenses and non-USA citizens's other IDs which should have a RED BORDER

Illegal aliens even get quality faked Social Security cards and driver's licenses thru Bill Clinton's Motor Voter scam and the drive AND VOTE illegally

Illegal aliens also sneak into the USA via Puerto Rico where they buy faked Birth Certificates and become INSTANT American citizens and then fly into Miami or Dallas or Atlanta

Illegal aliens can also buy fake PR Birth Certificate via the web or in scam shops here or order them from PR by phone and pay by credit card or money transfer in just a few minutes

Then they can get driver's licenses, vote, get SSI, food stamp cards, public subsized Section 8 housing, SS, and many more bennies you are paying for as they then bring in their "wives" and "kids", etc

Just one illegal alien can cost the USA taxpayer millions of dollars in a short time


CAUTION! :

Free Republic is full of fakeroo Conservatives who are pro "Open-Borders", La Raza members, nutcase lib leftie church activists and clergy, immigration attorneys and activists, Commies, One-Worlders, Open-Border LBs, crooked employers and even illegal aliens posting here on FR threads


Their hand is in your pocket right now




If they do not pay taxes yet get away with breaking USA laws why can't you?

Ask your politicians which ones you can break and which income taxes and employee witholding deductions you can ignore!

14th Ammendment does not say some "people" are more equal than others



The ACLU, NAACP, LaRaza, radical federal judges, immigration attorneys need to be highlighted and profiled on many websites and hounded and exposed

Publish their photos, resumes, addresses, personal and family info, etc on the web like Republic college students did on radical lib/dem leftist college faculty profs and instructors - It drove the radicals nutty and the tried to censor/shut down those websites!


We know how to do it after the 2004 election run-up


Any FR members who are employers who justify using illegal aliens for themselves or other employers need to "outed" now - You know who they are!



Let's hit the afterburners and smoke 'em!



273 posted on 12/03/2004 11:43:10 PM PST by devolve (                           )
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To: devolve

Game On BTTT!


274 posted on 12/04/2004 12:10:57 AM PST by ApesForEvolution (You will NEVER convince me that Muhammadanism isn't a death cult that must end. Save your time...)
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To: Happy2BMe

bttt


275 posted on 12/04/2004 1:34:11 AM PST by lainde
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To: WRhine
I'm not opposed to limiting immigration, especially these days. Also, I'm definitely opposed to paying for the welfare of illegals.

Having said that let's take a moment to recall the history of immigration laws in America. The fact is, they were purely racist inventions (demanded by the people as you would put it), intended to keep the "Yellow-Peril" from taking our jobs, our women, our country. (The same kind of rhetoric we now hear regarding Mexicans.)

Chinese first immigrated to America in large quantities when reports of the California Gold Rush reached coastal China in 1849. Immigration reached its gold rush peak in 1852, when over 20,000 Chinese, mostly farmers from around the Canton area, headed over to work mines in search of gold. The immigration slowed drastically afterwards, until the late 1860s, when Chinese papers advertised looking for workers on the railroad, and the rush was on again.

Those Chinese who still worked various private mines became the outlet of white anger, and blamed for lost jobs. In 1854 the California Supreme Court ruled that the Chinese could not testify in court in any case in which a white person is a party. The threat of the Chinese to the working class and their jobs continued to be a constant theme up through the early 20th Century.

Having been driven out of mining and agriculture, and laid off as work on the trans-continental railroad came to a close, the Chinese immigrants moved into other work, such as manufacturing, laundering, and domestic occupations, running head first into another minority group: the Irish. The Chinese would often take lower wages than the Irish workers, and many employers found them by and large to be a far superior working group to the Irish, cleaner, more hard working.

But the leaders of the Irish community took the opportunity to attempt to raise their own status in Anglo-Saxon society, by promoting a sort of pan-ethnic whiteness, defining Irish and Anglo-Saxon peoples to stand together in a 'white' category, as separate from 'black' or 'yellow' races. They used the imagery of the Yellow Peril -- legions of Chinese sweeping into the country, taking away the good honest work of the white man. They were for the most part very successful.

American legislators became obsessed with stemming the oriental tides that they feared would soon overtake them. In 1790, the Naturalization Act explicitly stated Naturalization as a citizen was only possible for "free white persons" only. This did not necessarily exclude Asians, as many people considered the Asiatic races to fall into the 'white' category (at least, George Washington did). In 1870, the abolition of slavery prompted a change in the wording, and it was amended to include persons of African descent. It was also amended to specifically exclude persons from China.

In 1882 the Chinese Exclusion Act was passed, banning not only Naturalization of peoples from China, but immigration as well. It allowed for some loopholes, which were quickly closed up with an 1884 amendment. Ironically, just a couple years later, the Statue of Liberty is unveiled in New York City.


276 posted on 12/04/2004 3:55:41 AM PST by snopercod (Bigger government means clinton won. Less freedom means Osama won. Get it?)
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To: mickie
Tomorrow I'll check it out again.

See you then perhaps.

277 posted on 12/04/2004 5:13:39 AM PST by Ron H. (Immigration to America has always been a privilege and never a right!)
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To: janetgreen

I couldn't vote for Peroutka. Not after I read his position paper.

WOT trumps everything else and Peroutka was on the wrong side of it.


278 posted on 12/04/2004 5:26:48 AM PST by sauropod (Hitlary: "We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good.")
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To: Ron H.

Apparently I need to think harder. ;)


279 posted on 12/04/2004 6:04:54 AM PST by madison10
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To: Ron H.
This is what I have to say on the situation:

""We were all willing to shut up during the campaign. We were not going to attack the president. But the campaign is over with and the gloves are off on this issue," Mr. Tancredo said".

And thats it!

280 posted on 12/04/2004 6:07:57 AM PST by mickie
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