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Barry Bonds told grand jury he "Unknowingly" used Steroids
San Francisco Chronicle ^ | 2004.12.03 | Lance Williams and Mark Fainaru-Wada, Chronicle Staff Writers

Posted on 12/02/2004 9:54:20 PM PST by TeleStraightShooter

BONDS' TESTIMONY Giants star told grand jury he used clear substance, cream provided by trainer Greg Anderson, but believed they were flaxseed oil and arthritis balm

Barry Bonds told a federal grand jury that he used a clear substance and a cream supplied by the Burlingame laboratory now enmeshed in a sports doping scandal, but he said he never thought they were steroids, The Chronicle has learned.

Federal prosecutors charge that the Bay Area Laboratory Co-operative, known as BALCO, distributed undetectable steroids to elite athletes in the form of a clear substance that was taken orally and a cream that was rubbed onto the body.

(Excerpt) Read more at sfgate.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bonds; bondssteriods; steroids
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To: A CA Guy

Everything these days is a cream or a patch...the 'pill', pain-management, etc.


41 posted on 12/02/2004 10:34:06 PM PST by ApesForEvolution (You will NEVER convince me that Muhammadanism isn't a death cult that must end. Save your time...)
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To: John Lenin

never do the ends justify the means...however, the steroids thing is well overblown. You can look like a friggin Pro Wrestler and still not hit the ball out of the yard until you hit it right....and that is a very hard thing to do....


42 posted on 12/02/2004 10:34:30 PM PST by MikefromOhio (37 days until I can leave Iraq for good....)
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To: TeleStraightShooter
First Professional wrestling now baseball! Next you'll tell me Hulk Hogan and Macho Man used steroids.

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43 posted on 12/02/2004 10:34:52 PM PST by sonsofliberty2000
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To: MikeinIraq

Human Growth Hormone (even homeopathically) was commonly used to speed recovery...is it 'illegal' now to keep one's HGH elevated to youthful levels?


44 posted on 12/02/2004 10:36:39 PM PST by ApesForEvolution (You will NEVER convince me that Muhammadanism isn't a death cult that must end. Save your time...)
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To: John Lenin

McGwires use of Androstenedione was right out in the open. It was no secret. If I recall, a reporter saw it in his locker and turned it into a story. You think Barry Bonds had his "arthritis balm" sitting in his locker? I doubt it.


45 posted on 12/02/2004 10:37:05 PM PST by Peace will be here soon (Missouri: Republican Governor, State House & Senate, both US Senators, and 5 of 9 US Reps !!!!)
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To: hole_n_one
Barry Bonds *

That's the best, mind if I "borrow" it?

46 posted on 12/02/2004 10:37:37 PM PST by demsux
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To: TeleStraightShooter
There will always be a DARK CLOUD over the records of Barry Bonds. There are two things that can NOT be ignored. First, we all know wine gets better with age, but HUMAN BEINGS, as a rule don't, at least NOT without "HELP". Looking at his tremendous accomplishments POST 36 years of age, when most athletes are on their way OUT, is truly amazing.

Second the VERY FACT that BB had NEVER hit 50 home runs in a single season, ONLY to hit 73 in 01, and for the first 15 years of his career to have around a 550 slugging percentage only to average .805 for the past 4 years, post 36 years of age only deepens that CLOUD.

47 posted on 12/02/2004 10:38:56 PM PST by PISANO (Never Forget 911!! & 911's 1st Heroes..... "Beamer, Glick, Bingham & Bennett.")
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To: MikeinIraq
Very true, you do have to have the skill to hit the ball, which is hte most diffiulct thing to do in all sports. However, Bonds was a consistent 40 homer hitter throughout his career, and then suddenly valuts into the 50+ category as he approaches 40. Then he hits 73. Most athletes slow down as they age, and lose strength. Bonds' bat speed increased, and he grew stronger. That is not logical, Jim.

I love the game, and Bonds has done terrible damage to it, if this story is, as I suspect, true.

48 posted on 12/02/2004 10:39:31 PM PST by JoeA (JoeA — W!!!!!)
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To: MikeinIraq

Steroids can improve your EYESIGHT, your REFLEXES, and give you an unfair advantage by making you up to 50% stronger than you could have possibly gotten with your "own" body -- and let you easily maintain your new size and strength ALL SEASON.


49 posted on 12/02/2004 10:39:35 PM PST by BushMeister ("We are a nation that has a government - not the other way around." --Ronald Reagan)
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To: MikeinIraq

I agree but with the added strength a long fly ball turns into a home run. Is it just a coincidence that the home run numbers go up when you use any kind of steroid ?


50 posted on 12/02/2004 10:40:24 PM PST by John Lenin
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To: PISANO

See my post 48: great minds think alike!!


51 posted on 12/02/2004 10:41:09 PM PST by JoeA (JoeA — W!!!!!)
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To: ApesForEvolution

they are going well beyond youthful levels and true, it wasnt a rule until 2 years ago, but if he has done it since then, he deserves to get nailed for it....

the MLB testing and rules about this are a damn joke...


52 posted on 12/02/2004 10:42:17 PM PST by MikefromOhio (37 days until I can leave Iraq for good....)
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To: A CA Guy

Actually quite a bit. Hormone creams are the preferred method for many doctors because they produce more constant levels of hormones with fewer highs and lows.


53 posted on 12/02/2004 10:43:01 PM PST by elmer fudd
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To: MikeinIraq

The whole league, Union included, is a freaking insult...


54 posted on 12/02/2004 10:44:28 PM PST by ApesForEvolution (You will NEVER convince me that Muhammadanism isn't a death cult that must end. Save your time...)
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To: JoeA

I think Bonds was a great player when he was able to steal bases...he cant anymore because he has put on so much weight.

The nice thing about McGwire and to a certain extent Sosa, is that they had a more natural curve to their home run years, except for injury and for Sosa, suspension years....

Bonds Bell Curve looks like a shuttle launch....


55 posted on 12/02/2004 10:44:51 PM PST by MikefromOhio (37 days until I can leave Iraq for good....)
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To: MikeinIraq

The Cream and the Cork...lol

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAA!


56 posted on 12/02/2004 10:46:35 PM PST by ApesForEvolution (You will NEVER convince me that Muhammadanism isn't a death cult that must end. Save your time...)
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To: John Lenin

true, but the guys that are the most suspected of doing the roids tend to hit "No Doubt" home runs....

It's very rare for a bit homerun hitter to barely get the ball out of the yard. They generally get too far under the ball to matter.

Guys like Sheffield and AROD are more line drive guys, whereas McGwire and Sosa tend to strike out more trying to hit the ball a mile....


57 posted on 12/02/2004 10:47:11 PM PST by MikefromOhio (37 days until I can leave Iraq for good....)
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To: TeleStraightShooter

What are you talking about? If you read the story, you would know that 4 have been charged in this case, including Anderson, Bond's trainer, who I was referring to.


58 posted on 12/02/2004 10:47:55 PM PST by Cableguy
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To: elmer fudd

Huh, I am learning something new today, thanks.


59 posted on 12/02/2004 10:47:56 PM PST by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: BushMeister

yeah and if you are expecting a 95 MPH fastball and get a 82 MPH slider, you can shoot all the roids you want, but you wont hit anything...


60 posted on 12/02/2004 10:48:30 PM PST by MikefromOhio (37 days until I can leave Iraq for good....)
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