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1 posted on 12/01/2004 5:31:56 AM PST by Clive
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2 posted on 12/01/2004 5:33:26 AM PST by Clive
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To: Clive
Canadians are not required to join Americans in this venture

Then sit down, shut up, and stay out of the way.
3 posted on 12/01/2004 5:41:29 AM PST by schaketo (http://www.gp.org/ Convince progressives to join the Green Party – Divide and conquer)
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To: Clive
Just finished Revel's book 'Anti-Americanism'. It's a worthwhile read - it really cuts to the core of European (especially French) hostility towards the US.
4 posted on 12/01/2004 5:42:15 AM PST by SolutionsOnly
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To: Clive

My prediction? This piece will once again fall upon deaf ears in the Great White North.

The Left will dismiss it, the moderates (that means almost every non-Left person from the east of Sudbury) will say "we are not entitled to follow this: this is none of our business!". And the conservatives will like it, but half of them are from Alberta, and the other half are already living in the States.


5 posted on 12/01/2004 5:42:50 AM PST by NZerFromHK ("US libs...hypocritical, naive, pompous...if US falls it will be because of these" - Tao Kit (HK))
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To: Clive

Canada is drowning in irrelevance. We keep throwing them a line that they refuse to take. Then they whine that we have ignored their plight.

Skrew em!


6 posted on 12/01/2004 5:44:26 AM PST by Conspiracy Guy (This space is available to advertise your service or product.)
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To: Clive

Great article! Yes, Bush is reshaping the course for the next hundred years. Just wondering, if anyone could comment, how do Candadians define themselves, it seems they do so in terms of "anything but that roudy obnoxious bunch south of the border". What is Canadian identity?


7 posted on 12/01/2004 5:46:07 AM PST by eagle11 (Passivity and Appeasement is No Way to Run a Civilization!)
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…three-quarters of Canadians view America as our "closest friend."

I’d be willing to bet that three-quarters of Americans don’t even think about Canada for decades at the time. Not as friends, not as enemies, not as anything.

I know I think of Canada about as often as I think of Senegal.

8 posted on 12/01/2004 5:51:11 AM PST by Who dat?
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To: Clive
"Canadians are not required to join Americans in this venture"

We definitely should have been directly involved. I hope we will be actively involved going forward. Our cooperation on missile defence will get the ball rolling.

13 posted on 12/01/2004 6:17:30 AM PST by balk (Martin's goin' down (just you wait!))
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Canadians' desire to be different from Americans, or be more European, makes us imagine rhetorically a value system more compassionate and more abiding of UN principles than that of Americans.

One side takes bribes from the Iraqi dictator and keeps the Iraqi people in bondage, the other spends it's own money and blood to free the Iraqi people from their bondage. Which side is more compassionate: the "bellicose, simple-minded, uncouth, reactionary" Americans, or the "principled" UN?

17 posted on 12/01/2004 6:35:12 AM PST by WildHorseCrash
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I have a certain affection for some Canadians, especially walleyes. Dipped in batter, fried in butter, on the shoreline, this represents some of the best Canadians. And duck potatoes wrapped in foil, roasted on red hot coals, this is the tastiest of Canadians, and no better mix of Canadians can be found on earth. Add in boiled cattail flower spikes, munched like miniature corn-on-the-cob, and you have the best Canadians that Canada offers.

Okay, Canadians brew good beer, too. See you next year.


21 posted on 12/01/2004 6:46:43 AM PST by sergeantdave (Alas, poor Kerry, we know you well. That's why you lost.)
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-...many Canadians indulge in caricatures of an America that Bush supposedly represents -- bellicose, simple-minded, uncouth, reactionary.-

Let me get my cryin' towel, my feewings are hurt.


23 posted on 12/01/2004 6:50:02 AM PST by AmericanChef
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They are just jealous because they are taxed more than we are.


31 posted on 12/01/2004 7:12:02 AM PST by Piquaboy (22 year veteran of the Army, AIr Force, Pray for all our military in hostile territory.)
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To: Clive
"the reality of an America that challenges Canadian self-identity"

Remember when Canada was part of America?

What are they a part of now?
(and, what part is that?)

33 posted on 12/01/2004 7:48:46 AM PST by laotzu
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To: Clive

"I lo-o-o-ove you ma-a-a-an!"

"Yer, (urp)... yer not so-o-o tough!!"

49 posted on 12/01/2004 9:00:54 AM PST by weegee (WE FOUGHT ZOGBYISM November 2, 2004 - 60 Million Voters versus 60 Minutes - BUSH WINS!!!)
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To: Clive

Must be bad up there without NHL Hockey. So now the blind up there have to beat up on the President.

Oh well......


55 posted on 12/01/2004 9:09:43 AM PST by The South Texan (The Democrat Party and the leftist (ABCCBSNBCCNN NYLATIMES)media are a criminal enterprise!)
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To: Clive

Did you watch the KanuKs sitting on their Kollective hands while Bush spoke to them today? The only thing they seemed to think worthy of note was the mention of the NHL.


56 posted on 12/01/2004 9:10:04 AM PST by Don Corleone (Leave the gun..take the cannoli)
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USA Conservatives have a very simple creed. “Lead, follow, or get the f**k out of the way.” If you love freedom, get onboard. If you don’t love freedom, get the f**k out of our way.


63 posted on 12/01/2004 9:52:03 AM PST by ORECON (Condi Rice/Ann Coulter - 2008)
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To: Clive

It is easy to view someone as bellicose, simple and reactionary when they are the one who is required to take action, and you are the one who gets to sit back reap the benefit of their action.

I like Canada, I think they are a fine country with a great history. They fought well in WWII and Korea. But if Canadians are not going to get behind us on this, and instead, side with the UN, then I would just as soon have no truck with them. It is one thing to take action that protects grateful, helpful people. It is another to shed blood and money for obstructionist ingrates.


87 posted on 12/01/2004 12:12:33 PM PST by rlmorel
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Canada has a very bad case of little brother syndrome.


102 posted on 12/01/2004 12:37:55 PM PST by Beckwith (John Kerry is now a kept man . . .)
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To: Clive

Great essay. I wonder how many Canadians read it and let the meaning sink in.


114 posted on 12/01/2004 1:06:39 PM PST by hershey
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