Canucks view U.S. through skewed eyes

Toronto Sun ^ | December 1, 2004 | Salim Mansur

[Clive]

"What a joke, huh? Hmmm ... a socialist, selected in a country run by liberals (essentially), in a contest hosted by a liberal entity (CBC). The result was a forgone conclusion. It's a complete farce."

Although some of us managed by out votes to get Don Cherry into the top 10, which was one in the eye for Mother Corp.

Other than that, nobody except Mother Corp's brainwashed leftist audience took this contest seriously.

[NorthOf45]

What year was the Canadian war for independence fought?

You're not the first to bring up this subject.

Generally speaking, I've always wondered why it should even matter with regards to the issues of today. So, because WE didn't have a war for independence, like the Americans did so long ago, WE are unworthy of independence? Did YOU fight for YOUR independence?

You seem to pride yourself and preach on the actions of many from long ago. If you could talk to a Patriot now, do you think they would have wanted to do it the way that they did? All of the turmoil and death and families being decimated? Which way of gaining independence do you think they would have chosen?

It should also be noted that we are not 100% independent. We still have too many ties to royalty.

[ORECON]

USA Conservatives have a very simple creed. “Lead, follow, or get the f**k out of the way.” If you love freedom, get onboard. If you don’t love freedom, get the f**k out of our way.

[Redleg Duke]

My Great Grandfather emmigrated from the Ottawa area before the turn of the 20th Century. I have relatives up there I have never met.

I am glad that my Great Grandfather made the move!

[albertabound]

Well, mine moved to Alberta from Pennsylvania and I am thankful for that..

[JudyinCanada]

Canada is not a "peacemaker". They like to be thought of as a "peacekeeper".

The only problem with that is, before you can keep the peace, you have to first MAKE the peace. You have to recognize who is causing the trouble and use whatever means(diplomacy or force) necessary to put them into quiet submission.

It is only after this is done, that the peace can be kept. In fact, once the peace has been decisively "made", you won't need anyone to "keep" it.

[laotzu]

"Except in 1812, WW1, WW2...Korea..."

None of those wars was for the independence of Canada.

Canada never fought for her own freedom.

[laotzu]

"Your knowledge of Canadian history has corrected these myths."

Doubtful. Too many Canadians carry on the myth that Canada fought a war for independence. Why do you think that is? Why do you perpetuate that myth?

[laotzu]

"If by America you mean the USA..."

By America, I mean America. Are we playing word-games now?

[laotzu]

"WE didn't have a war for independence, like the Americans did so long ago"

Careful. A Canadian will label you abysmally ignorant, and a Canada-basher for stating this matter of fact.

[laotzu]

I note that you have gone silent.

Now, how did I know to expect that?

[what's up]

find them now disproportionally wormed into our educational system at all levels

It's hard to take this seriously when even you admit you have no idea how many deserters there are.

[laotzu]

"You seem to pride yourself and preach on the actions of many from long ago."

Yes. I do.

The greatness that is the United States is based squarely upon just such actions, and prides.

We have many shortcomings. They are of our own making. They are our shame, and our blame.

Canadas' problems are also of her own making. Her actions, and attitudes of today, are an extension of her actions and attitudes of yesterdays. Yet; Canada continues to place that blame, and that shame on America.

Canada has strong socialist leanings. Your fellow Canadian suggests this is mostly due to American draft dodgers. Canada never felt that strongly about independence, or individual liberty to begin with.

[what's up]

That's why I put "peacemaker" in quotes.

That's what Canadians like to think of them selves as. It's their national idenity.

Trouble is...it's not true.

[Alaska Wolf]

Actually I was surprised PET didn't win. Did CBC give a vote breakdown? Wonder how Don Cherry did. Personally I think the whole "Greatest Canadian" was contrived to stir up support for liberals who are in the midst of another government scandal.

[laotzu]

"Except in 1812, WW1"

Canada didn't exist in either of these wars.

Were you meaning to praise Great Britain for these accomplishments?

Have you ever seen a history book?

[fanfan]

Please, show me there is one Canadian different than Parrish.

O.K., How about this one....

Connie Wilkins and other supporters of Americans and President Bush were among many Bush supporters at the Welcome Rally in Ottawa ... and made sure they were the first group to greet the motorcade, receiving a thumbs up sign from President Bush!

Or these people........

I'm in the red coat towards the right, with my son to my left.

We are the people Your President referred to when he talked about the warm welcome he received here.

[laotzu]

What is it, exactly, are you claiming I am 'abysmally ignorant' about?

You are just another insult-hurling Canadian. I can't tell you how refreshing that is.

[what's up]

I thought Canada got their independence in 1867, which would mean they fought in WWI.

I could be wrong about that.

[what's up]

I thought Canada got their independence in 1867, which would mean they fought in WWI.

I could be wrong about that.