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New old news I guess, but it helps for folks to be reminded occasionally.

The main point that should be taken from this, even though it is not explicitly stated is that if you are going to be connected to the internet, especially if your are nailed up with a broadband connection, it is critcal that you have a hardware firewall to hide your PC from the hackers.

Also, if you're browsing, don't use IE unless you absolutely have to. Mozilla or Firefox will help keep a lot of nastiness from your computer.

1 posted on 11/30/2004 1:29:43 PM PST by zeugma
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2 posted on 11/30/2004 1:30:31 PM PST by Ulysses ("Most of us go through life thinking we're Superman. Superman goes through life being Clark Kent!")
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I always appreciate your point of view, backhoe.


3 posted on 11/30/2004 1:33:08 PM PST by lysie
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In addition to Firefox, a good router for a firewall and regular spyware searches and cleanings, I recommend the use of Outpost Personal Firewall. It's free, small and damned effective.

For the sad truth is that a hardware firewall/router will NOT protect your PC from attacks initiated from behind the firewall. Such attacks are initiated by spyware that has already infected the PC. Without something like Outpost, you're a sitting duck.

Get Them Shields UP!

4 posted on 11/30/2004 1:33:53 PM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (All I ask from livin' is to have no chains on me. All I ask from dyin' is to go naturally.)
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Unprotected PCs Fall To Hacker Bots In Just Four Minutes

And lo...100% of them are Windows.

Man...you'd think with the obscene amount of money that Herr Gates makes that he could actually afford a decent security audit of his company's crapware.

5 posted on 11/30/2004 1:34:17 PM PST by Prime Choice (I like Democrats, too. Let's exchange recipes.)
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Thanks!


6 posted on 11/30/2004 1:35:00 PM PST by lilylangtree (Veni, Vidi, Vici)
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And remember, boys and girls, that no computer is safe in the hands of a user willing to run an infested executable, click "OK" without paying attention, or authorize an executable to run as a privileged user without thinking.
7 posted on 11/30/2004 1:37:25 PM PST by Question_Assumptions
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FREE PC PROTECTION:
(Not an exhaustive list. Your results may vary. Void where prohibited. For entertainment purposes only. No wagering, please. Whattayawantfernuthin'.)
(Thanks, but "Buy a Mac" doesn't qualify as "FREE PC protection")

8 posted on 11/30/2004 1:39:27 PM PST by martin_fierro (00111100 00100000 01111100 00111010 00101001 01111110)
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The most secure system during the experiment was the one running Linspire's Linux.

This is the relevant useful statement in the whole post. At least for today.

10 posted on 11/30/2004 1:40:46 PM PST by Publius6961 (The most abundant things in the universe are hydrogen and stupidity.)
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BTTT


11 posted on 11/30/2004 1:41:52 PM PST by b4its2late (Liberals are good examples of why some animals eat their young.)
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Is it safe?

13 posted on 11/30/2004 1:43:11 PM PST by Delta 21 (MKC USCG -ret)
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I bought a new laptop a few months ago. At the time, there was a worm in circulation causing computers to shut down. Sure enough, within an hour, my computer got infected and started shutting down, etc. I was astounded and outraged.

I run Firefox rather than Windows on my computers now, and seem to encounter fewer problems. I did use Zone Alert, but found it was too intrusive and also interfered with my wi-fi system so have deleted it.


14 posted on 11/30/2004 1:43:19 PM PST by governsleastgovernsbest (Watching the Today Show since 2002 so you don't have to.)
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I'm running a Windows 98 box with Zone Alarm. I have a dial up connection, so it's not even online that much.

In only 2 or 3 months since I installed my updated Zone Alarm, it's detected and stopped 27,190 intrusions!

(Gee, I wonder why my dial up connection is running so slow?)

15 posted on 11/30/2004 1:43:58 PM PST by Slump Tester (John Kerry - When even your best still isn't good enough)
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Four minutes? That's nothing. I have a group of like machines at work. In 2001, I got them and installed 2000 SP2(I think) on all of them. I turned one off and kept it as a cold spare. In July 03, one died. I took the cold spare, and turned it on. By the time it finished booting (90 seconds), it was hacked by the RPC virus, and rebooted just before the login screen came up. If I were a cracker, I would have beamed at the beauty of the creation. As a Sysadmin, I was seriously horked off.

I replaced the whole lab with OS X boxes this year, and haven't been happier.


16 posted on 11/30/2004 1:45:10 PM PST by ThinkPlease (Fortune Favors the Bold!)
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Is your PC lifting its skirt at every passer-by on the Internet? Find out here.
17 posted on 11/30/2004 1:46:03 PM PST by Redcloak ("FOUR MORE BEERS! FOUR MORE BEERS! FOUR MORE BEERS!" -Teresa Heinz Kerry)
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it is critcal that you have a hardware firewall to hide your PC from the hackers.

Agreed. The Linksys firewall/router is down to about $49.00, and there's no excuse for not having one (or something similar).

I've been on DSL for 4 years and not been hacked or even touched once beyond the outside of the firewall, which is under constant and unsuccessful assault.

Finally, honeypot tests I saw years ago agreed with the above story, and in one instance a scripted attack found the machine, installed a trojan horse (remote control) program, and disconnected within 10 *seconds*.

18 posted on 11/30/2004 1:46:27 PM PST by angkor
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The second, dubbed the LSASS vulnerability, was first disclosed in April, 2004, and led to the Sasser worm.

I got hit with this one earlier this year. I had to wipe out my hard drive and reinstall the OS.

I use Armor2Net firewall, which has a stealth setting making my computer invisible while on the net.

20 posted on 11/30/2004 1:53:30 PM PST by jellybean
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"Out of the box, Linspire left only one open port....

Does anyone know which port this is, and what network service is bound to it?


22 posted on 11/30/2004 1:54:40 PM PST by proxy_user
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Install a good anti-intrusion software that hardwalls Windows against hackers. Qwik-Fix from Pivx is a nice product that does just that. It even protects against vulnerabilities for which Microsoft hasn't come out with patches till now. http://www.pivx.com


23 posted on 11/30/2004 1:54:47 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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http://www.dslreports.com/faq/security


27 posted on 11/30/2004 1:56:38 PM PST by this_ol_patriot
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bump


28 posted on 11/30/2004 1:57:46 PM PST by 2right
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