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Netherlands Hospital Euthanizes Babies (The "Final Solution," Part Deux)
Yahoo! News (AP) ^ | 11/30/2004 | Toby Sterling

Posted on 11/30/2004 11:17:14 AM PST by Pyro7480

Netherlands Hospital Euthanizes Babies

By TOBY STERLING, Associated Press Writer

AMSTERDAM, Netherlands - Raising the stakes in an excruciating ethical debate, a hospital in the Netherlands — the first nation to permit euthanasia — recently proposed guidelines for mercy killings of terminally ill newborns, and then made a startling revelation: It has already begun carrying out such procedures in a handful of cases and reporting them to the government.

The announcement last month by the Groningen Academic Hospital came amid a growing discussion in Holland on whether to legalize euthanasia on people incapable of deciding for themselves whether they want to end their lives — a prospect viewed with horror by euthanasia opponents and as a natural evolution by advocates.

In August, the main Dutch doctors' association KNMG urged the Health Ministry to create an independent board to review euthanasia cases for terminally ill people "with no free will," including children, the severely mentally retarded, and people left in an irreversible coma after an accident.

The Health Ministry is preparing its response to the request, a spokesman said, and it may come as soon as December.

Three years ago, the Dutch parliament made it legal for doctors to inject a sedative and a lethal dose of muscle relaxant at the request of adult patients suffering great pain with no hope of relief.

The Groningen Protocol, as the hospital's guidelines have come to be known, would create a legal framework for permitting doctors to actively end the life of newborns deemed to be in similar pain from incurable disease or extreme deformities.

The guideline says euthanasia is acceptable when the child's medical team and independent doctors agree the pain cannot be eased and there is no prospect for improvement, and when parents think it's best.

Examples include extremely premature births, where children suffer brain damage from bleeding and convulsions; and diseases where a child could only survive on life support for the rest of its life such as spina bifida and epidermosis bullosa, a blistering illness.

The hospital said it carried out four such mercy killings in 2003, and reported all cases to government prosecutors — but there have been no legal proceedings taken against them.

Catholic organizations and the Vatican have reacted with outrage to Groningen's announcement, and U.S. euthanasia opponents contend that the proposal shows the Dutch have lost their moral compass.

"The slippery slope in the Netherlands has descended already into a vertical cliff," said Wesley J. Smith, a prominent California-based critic, in an e-mail to The Associated Press.

Child euthanasia remains illegal everywhere. Experts say doctors outside of Holland do not report cases for fear of prosecution.

"As things are, people are doing this secretly and that's wrong," said Eduard Verhagen, head of Groningen's children's' clinic. "In the Netherlands we want to expose everything, to let everything be subjected to vetting."

According to the Justice Ministry, four cases of child euthanasia were reported to prosecutors in 2003. Two were reported in 2002, seven in 2001 and five in 2000. All the cases in 2003 were reported by Groningen, but some of the cases in other years were from other hospitals.

Groningen estimated the protocol would be applicable in about 10 cases per year in the Netherlands, a country with 16 million people.

Since the introduction of the Dutch law, Belgium has also legalized euthanasia, while in France, legislation to allow doctor-assisted suicide is currently under debate. In the United States, the state of Oregon is alone in allowing physician-assisted suicide, but this is under constant legal challenge.

However, experts acknowledge that doctors euthanize routinely in the United States but that such practice is hidden.

"Measures that might marginally extend a child's life by minutes or hours or days or weeks are stopped. This happens routinely, namely, every day," said Lance Stell, professor of medical ethics at Davidson College and staff ethicist at Carolinas Medical Center in the United States. "Everybody knows that it happens, but there's a lot of hypocrisy. Instead, people talk about things they're not going to do."

More than half of all deaths occur under medical supervision, so it's really about management and method of death, Stell said.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Political Humor/Cartoons
KEYWORDS: culture; cultureofdeath; death; deathculture; europe; euthanasia; infanticide; morality; netherlands; newborns; righttodie
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To: editor-surveyor

Bump!


201 posted on 11/30/2004 5:50:20 PM PST by windchime (Won't it be great watching President Bush spend political capital?)
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To: AnAmericanMother
Make sure you order a copy of the ISI guide for Choosing the Right College: The Whole Truth about America's Top Schools from Intercollegiate Studies Institute.
202 posted on 11/30/2004 6:04:16 PM PST by TaxRelief (out-of-the-closet conservative)
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To: Towed_Jumper

Who will grow the tulips?


203 posted on 11/30/2004 6:10:24 PM PST by TaxRelief (out-of-the-closet conservative)
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To: Blzbba

Ah yes, the 'killing cures societal ills and relieves responsibility' approach. I too am finding your assertive remarks interesting, though somewhat disgusting. You do represent a significant segment of this nation's citizens.


204 posted on 11/30/2004 6:12:51 PM PST by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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To: Recovering_Democrat; NYer
I'm sure that she is.

Boxer is probably the single worst product that Kings County ever exported.

Too bad she didn't take Chuck Schumer with her when she left.

205 posted on 11/30/2004 6:17:27 PM PST by Do not dub me shapka broham
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March

I agree. If life is sacred (and it is) then ALL life is sacred. And when motivations for speeding up others' deaths are looked at carefully, there is always a component of selfishness - it's easier for those who aren't dying (yet) if the ones who are dying have their departure hastened.


206 posted on 11/30/2004 6:30:35 PM PST by little jeremiah (Moral Absolutes? Do they exist? i If so, what are they and where did they come from?)
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To: Pyro7480; 2ndMostConservativeBrdMember; afraidfortherepublic; Alas; al_c; american colleen; ...


207 posted on 11/30/2004 6:36:41 PM PST by Coleus (There is Plenty of Room For all of God's Creatures, Right Next to the mashed potatoes! Happy TG Day)
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To: TaxRelief
Got it already!

I believe that a "liberal education" in the old traditional sense of the trivium and quadrivium is the best education anyone can have to fit him for any job going.

208 posted on 11/30/2004 7:13:12 PM PST by AnAmericanMother (. . . Ministrix of ye Chace (recess appointment), TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary . . .)
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To: Modernman
Yeah, the Princeton guys used to import ladies from elsewhere for the weekend.

They didn't "date" Princeton girls even after we were there. I had lots of good friends who happened to be male, but no romantic interest on campus at all.

(Of course, that may have had something to do with the fact that my now husband (of 27 years) was in the Army and 6'6" and 200 # - he used to come by on weekends in his greens to intimidate anybody who might be expressing an interest that way . . . )

209 posted on 11/30/2004 7:31:16 PM PST by AnAmericanMother (. . . Ministrix of ye Chace (recess appointment), TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary . . .)
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To: TaxRelief
We can't communicate in an Anglican church, no matter how conservative, unless they've joined the Catholics under the Anglican Use Rite.

I saw the Huntersville Church website & it looks very good, but 6 miles is a long way when you don't have a car (does Davidson allow freshmen to have cars?)

210 posted on 11/30/2004 7:35:44 PM PST by AnAmericanMother (. . . Ministrix of ye Chace (recess appointment), TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary . . .)
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To: TaxRelief
"Who will grow the tulips?"

I guess the dead babies can push them up?

211 posted on 11/30/2004 8:16:13 PM PST by editor-surveyor (The Lord has given us President Bush; let's now turn this nation back to him)
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To: AnAmericanMother

I'll check and see how the Catholic kids are getting to church...


212 posted on 11/30/2004 8:18:39 PM PST by TaxRelief (out-of-the-closet conservative)
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To: Pyro7480
At least the Muslims have the (small) sense not to abort their kids. But I think that's more for propagation purposes than anything else.

Can't say much for Muslims when they're willing instead to let the baby grow up a little and then put bombs on him and send him to kill a few Israelis.

213 posted on 11/30/2004 8:22:25 PM PST by FITZ
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To: TaxRelief

Thanks! I really appreciate that! If they have a regular convoy or caravan down to Huntersville, that would be great (it also means she'd be hanging with the devout kids, which is a Good Thing.)


214 posted on 11/30/2004 8:33:20 PM PST by AnAmericanMother (. . . Ministrix of ye Chace (recess appointment), TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary . . .)
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To: Pyro7480; GatorGirl; maryz; afraidfortherepublic; Antoninus; Aquinasfan; livius; goldenstategirl; ..

Abortion BEYOND the third trimester.


215 posted on 11/30/2004 8:46:37 PM PST by narses (Free Republic is pro-God, pro-life, pro-family + Vivo Christo Rey!)
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To: editor-surveyor
No, the only problem with social security is the 45 million aborted citizens that will never have a job or contribute.

All Ponzi schemes are losers for the last ones in, if enough new suckers participants can't be found.

216 posted on 11/30/2004 9:11:50 PM PST by Gondring (They can have my Bill of Rights when they pry it from my cold, dead hands!)
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To: little jeremiah
If people want to commit suicide, that's their business. Once it becomes the government's business to "assist", the slippery slope comes into effect, just as this article (and my comments) indicate. No amount of "feelings" and "my friend" anecdotes can change this reality.

I'm not the one asking the government to be involved. I'm saying that the government should stay out of health care, and let the patients and physicians decide. The problem addressed in the article is those patients who cannot communicate their preferences.

So, I agree...let's not let end of life decisions be "the government's business." Let's allow a person to obtain and use means to end his own life that are more civilized than dehydration. Let's allow a person assist a person in need, without harassing and prosecuting them.

When people are getting ready to die, they don't want to drink any more. You can call it dehydration, but they don't*want*to*drink.

Like you said, anecdotes aren't going to change things, and your experiences fail to account for those who aren't in those end stages where they don't want to drink. The dehydration to which I referred was the removal of hydration tubes (for someone in a PVS, for example), but just as relevant are those who are concious and would simply like a way to actively end things less painfully rather than wait for the decline.

217 posted on 11/30/2004 9:23:32 PM PST by Gondring (They can have my Bill of Rights when they pry it from my cold, dead hands!)
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To: little jeremiah
If life is sacred (and it is) then ALL life is sacred. And when motivations for speeding up others' deaths are looked at carefully, there is always a component of selfishness - it's easier for those who aren't dying (yet) if the ones who are dying have their departure hastened.

What if a planned departure is desired by the person who is ill? Do you think those people who help their spouses die peacefully are doing so selfishly? I believe many times people selfishly prevent others from escaping the pain they are in, and guilt them into staying alive beyond when they'd want to.

218 posted on 11/30/2004 9:27:54 PM PST by Gondring (They can have my Bill of Rights when they pry it from my cold, dead hands!)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March
We must revere life, especially the lives of the most young and helpless. But also the lives of our elders. That is the glue that holds civilization together

Likewise, we must revere rights and compassion.

219 posted on 11/30/2004 9:30:39 PM PST by Gondring (They can have my Bill of Rights when they pry it from my cold, dead hands!)
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To: Mr. K
If a child will never survive why prolong its agony?

Because doing the compassionate thing would require a moral compass and not just some clichés and washing of the hands. People treat their animals better than they'd treat a suffering human. :-(

220 posted on 11/30/2004 9:39:39 PM PST by Gondring (They can have my Bill of Rights when they pry it from my cold, dead hands!)
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