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Pre-emptive Strikes Justified: UN Report
INDOlink ^ | New York, Nov. 29

Posted on 11/29/2004 6:45:27 PM PST by Rain-maker

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Next step is a pre-emptive nuke?
1 posted on 11/29/2004 6:45:27 PM PST by Rain-maker
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To: Rain-maker
UN to issue alert over spread of nuclear arms
By Mark Turner at the United Nations
Published: November 30 2004 00:03

The world system to prevent the spread of nuclear weapons is being rapidly eroded, threatening a “cascade of proliferation,” a high-level panel on UN reform will say this week.

The report, due to be released on Thursday, will recommend the UN Security Council slow the spread of weapons using an explicit pledge of “collective action” against any state or group that launches a nuclear attack or even threatens such an attack on a non-nuclear-weapon state.

Kofi Annan, UN secretarygeneral, last year established a panel of 16 veteran politicians and diplomats from around the world to identify the main threats facing mankind. It identifies nuclear proliferation as a particular danger and it warns: “The nuclear proliferation regime is at risk because of lack of compliance with existing commitments, a changing international security environment, and radical advances in technology.

“We are approaching a point at which the erosion of the nuclear regime could become irreversible, and result in a cascade of proliferation.” In 1963, only four states had nuclear arsenals. Today eight states are known to have one, and several others are suspected of developing them. Close to 60 states operate or are building nuclear power or research reactors, and at least 30 possess the infrastructure to build nuclear weapons at relatively short notice. Terrorists are also believed to be seeking them.

To help prevent secret weapons programmes, the panel will also urge all countries to stop building enrichment or reprocessing facilities, until a global scheme is designed to enable the International Atomic Energy Agency to guarantee the supply of fissile material to genuine “civil nuclear users”.

The panel examined a wide range of threats, including terrorism, disease, poverty and environmental degradation. But the risk of nuclear Armageddon may be the most pressing of all, and has led to growing disagreement over how to tackle nuclear advances in the Middle East, Asia and Latin America.

It argues that nuclear weapons states “must honour their commitments to move towards disarmament”, and reaffirm promises not to use nuclear weapons against non-nuclear states. The Security Council pledge for “collective action” could help ease non-nuclear states' concerns.

All de facto nuclear states, including Israel, Pakistan and India (which are not named), should “pledge a commitment to non-proliferation and disarmament”, ratify the comprehensive test-ban treaty and support talks on a Fissile Material Cut-off Treaty. In order to reduce supply, the panel says the IAEA's additional protocol should become the standard, and urges a new system whereby peaceful nuclear technology users could be guaranteed fissile material although the right to use nuclear energy for peaceful purposes “must be preserved.”

In a possible bow to Washington, it also calls on “all states” to join the US-led Proliferation Security Initiative, with UN Security Council backing.

http://news.ft.com/cms/s/2ecedea6-4260-11d9-8e3c-00000e2511c8,ft_acl=,s01=1.html

2 posted on 11/29/2004 6:47:43 PM PST by Rain-maker
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F the UN. The US makes its own decisions about its security. Screw those chateaubriand-eating US-taxpayer-funded do-nothing weasels.


3 posted on 11/29/2004 6:49:23 PM PST by LibertarianInExile (NO BLOOD FOR CHOCOLATE! Get the UN-ignoring, unilateralist Frogs out of Ivory Coast!)
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All of this "intervening" that the UN claims it can do; Has it EVER been held RESPONSABLE for the outcome? Or for FAILING to intervene?

And that is the only argument necessary to dismiss the UN: it has no responsibility or culpability.
4 posted on 11/29/2004 6:51:02 PM PST by TalBlack
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Actually, this report justifies, IMHO, a pre-emptive strike on the UN..


5 posted on 11/29/2004 6:51:16 PM PST by ken5050
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Oooh, I bet the nations of the world developing nukes are scared now. The UN is getting together 'collective action.' This means, of course, that the UN General Assembly will all turn and glower at the representative from any offending nation. Then they'll go back to business as usual, stealing candy from babies and money from US taxpayers.


6 posted on 11/29/2004 6:51:16 PM PST by LibertarianInExile (NO BLOOD FOR CHOCOLATE! Get the UN-ignoring, unilateralist Frogs out of Ivory Coast!)
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How about a pre-emptive strike on the UN?


7 posted on 11/29/2004 6:52:06 PM PST by Aussie Dasher (Stop Hillary - PEGGY NOONAN '08)
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Great minds think alike!


8 posted on 11/29/2004 6:53:03 PM PST by Aussie Dasher (Stop Hillary - PEGGY NOONAN '08)
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Looks like the game field is leveling between the socialists and the US to me.

Next step is tactical nuclear war.


9 posted on 11/29/2004 6:53:40 PM PST by Rain-maker
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To: LibertarianInExile

Pretty much my sentiments but I try not to sugarcoat it.


10 posted on 11/29/2004 6:54:40 PM PST by crazyhorse691 (We won. We don't need to be forgiving. Let the heads roll!!!!!!!!!)
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The report says that force is legitimate if an endangered state, backed by the Security Council, decides that a threat is serious and imminent;

Keep in mind that Bush said we attacked Iraq before they became an imminent threat (contrary to what the news/Michael Moore reports).

11 posted on 11/29/2004 6:54:58 PM PST by killjoy (My kid is the bomb at Islam Elementary!)
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Is Kofi trying to get the focus off himself?


12 posted on 11/29/2004 6:55:55 PM PST by philetus (Zell Miller - One of the few)
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Not sure how old you ae..but one of the weirdest ever protests durng the Vietnam era was when a coven of self-proclaimed witches announced that they would picket the Pentagon, cast a joint spell, and levitate the building away...as I recall, it made the front page of the NY Times....maybe NYC area Freepers could try to rent a few witches..


13 posted on 11/29/2004 6:56:39 PM PST by ken5050
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UN plan demands more intervention
The report has been called the "biggest make-over" of the UN since 1945.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/4052385.stm

14 posted on 11/29/2004 6:57:44 PM PST by Rain-maker
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I'm a little too young to remember the Vietnam era with any clarity - but a great story.

If you're looking for a witch, I understand there's one occupying a senatorial seat in New York...


15 posted on 11/29/2004 6:59:44 PM PST by Aussie Dasher (Stop Hillary - PEGGY NOONAN '08)
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Pre-emptive Strikes Justified: UN Report

Does this vindicate Admiral Isoroku Yamamoto's strike on Pearl Harbor?

16 posted on 11/29/2004 7:03:09 PM PST by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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So, the principle of preemptive self-defence is a correct and ethical one, but only if promulgated by an organization (UN Security Council) other than the one defending itself? The logical conclusion: Only the UN Security Council is capable of acting ethically. The very same principle, in the very same circumstances, promulgated by a sovereign nation becomes unethical.

What a load of elitist, narcissistic, bovine excrement.

The UN: Hey, we may be corrupt and incompetent, but at least we want to take over the world!

17 posted on 11/29/2004 7:04:26 PM PST by TChris (You keep using that word. I don't think it means what yHello, I'm a TAGLINE vir)
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I did not the UN is saying it now. I wonder if this means we can do a pre-emptive strike on the UN and other leftist/Communist groups?


18 posted on 11/29/2004 7:05:02 PM PST by Ptarmigan (Proud rabbit hater and killer)
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They can kiss our posteriors. The last invasion of Iraq was the enforcement of the 1991 ceasefire of which Iraq was blatantly noncompliant.

Iraq: Weapons Threat, Compliance, Sanctions, and U.S. Policy

The Senate and House passed a resolution, S.J.Res. 54 (P.L. 105-235, signed August 14, 1998), declaring Iraq in “material breach” of the ceasefire.

19 posted on 11/29/2004 7:05:43 PM PST by AndrewC (New Senate rule -- Must vote on all Presidential appointments period certain.)
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http://www.jofreeman.com/photos/Pentagon67.html


20 posted on 11/29/2004 7:06:12 PM PST by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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