Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

French hostility a chronic problem
Chicago Sun-Times ^ | 11/29/04 | Robert Novak

Posted on 11/29/2004 5:54:00 PM PST by wagglebee

PARIS -- U.S. diplomats here respond to Jacques Chirac's continued Yankee-bashing following George W. Bush's re-election by saying the French president is out of step with his people, who are not nearly that anti-American. But thoughtful Frenchmen believe President Chirac is mining a deep vein of sentiment among fellow citizens that transcends President Bush.

During a week in Paris, I encountered none of the rudeness I had been warned to expect because of my nationality. However, the question goes beyond amenities to visitors. One French intellectual described anti-Americanism to me as ''a cancer that is sweeping across the country.'' It may not be as deadly as cancer, but it surely is not healthy for France.

The chronic nature of French hostility toward the United States contradicts claims by Bush's domestic critics that his unilateral policies caused deterioration of Franco-American relations. It is less the United States with a French problem than France burdened with a serious American problem.

On his recent visit to London, Chirac pressed for ''multipolarity'': a return to international rivalries that produced the carnage of the 20th century. He also suggested there was no point trying to repair his country's difficulties with Washington and taunted British Prime Minister Tony Blair because ''our American friends'' do not ''pay back favors.'' Mocking Donald Rumsfeld's designation of France as ''Old Europe,'' he pretended not to remember the secretary of defense's name and referred to him, sarcastically, as ''that nice guy of America.''

State Department officials thought Chirac would reach out to Washington once Bush was re-elected, and U.S. diplomats here say he has misread French opinion. On the contrary, playing the anti-American card is seen in political circles here as Chirac's strongest position as he prepares to run for a third five-year term in 2007. He is unpopular, detested by the Left and considered an apostate on the Right, but may survive by bashing Uncle Sam.

The impression by U.S. officials that Chirac is going too far may be based on anecdotal evidence, such as my encounter with a Paris kiosk owner from whom I bought a newspaper. ''Oh, we just love Americans,'' he beamed as he gave me a free piece of chocolate, ''it's Bush we hate.''

However, the problem goes much deeper than Bush or the 80 percent election preference for John Kerry in French polls. A writer here told me of his 19-year-old daughter attending a one-day French army briefing, mandatory after conscription was abolished. The last four hours consisted of a harangue on U.S. foreign policy, especially in Iraq. That war was described as a plot by American capitalists to cheat Iraqis out of their oil in a lecture that would have done justice to a conspiracy-minded Internet blogger.

U.S. officials say Charles DeGaulle at least gave the United States help when needed and so is unlike the latter-day Gaullist Chirac. Actually, DeGaulle was an inconstant ally in the Cold War who often sided with the Soviet Union in return for soft treatment by the then powerful French Communist Party.

Yet, the attitude Chirac reflects cannot be blamed on DeGaulle. America may have replaced Britain, which for centuries was ''Perfidious Albion'' to the French. Jean-Claude Casanova, editor of Commentaire (France's leading intellectual quarterly) sees France's ''naive superiority'' toward the Americans.

France is burdened with problems distant from America. The economy is stagnant, and the replacement of the franc by the euro has meant higher prices but not higher wages. Thursday, 50,000 railroad employees poured into Paris to protest insufficient new hiring. The civil service dominates the government, which suffocates the powerless National Assembly. Michel Gurfinkel, editor of a small newsweekly, told me the press is ''free but not independent'' of the government.

The lone potential breath of fresh air viewed by internal critics is flamboyant populist Nicolas Sarkozy, who is resigning as finance minister to seek leadership of France's governing party and then perhaps run for president. Although Sarkozy is unabashedly pro-American, it has not hurt him so far. But his opponent is likely to be Chirac, still waving the bloody American shirt and still hard to beat.


TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: antiamericanism; boycott; champagnesucks; chirac; cowards; drinkastespumante; eurosocialism; fetid; france; french; frogger; malodorous; nasty; noisome; novak; offensive; putrid; rank; smelly; stinky; unbathed
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-4041-55 next last
France's biggest problem is their inability to accept their total irrelevance in world affairs.
1 posted on 11/29/2004 5:54:01 PM PST by wagglebee
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: wagglebee

When will someone relieve us of the problem of France?


2 posted on 11/29/2004 5:59:11 PM PST by Podkayne
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: wagglebee
Bob's got a problem if he doesn't recognize the hostility among the frogs...when I was living in Rome, just after we invaded Iraq, it was standard practice for the frogs to move to another table once they heard me order my cafe' Americano...scum.
3 posted on 11/29/2004 5:59:13 PM PST by Cornpone ((Aging Warrior))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: wagglebee

What france thinks is as important to the US as what Haiti thinks.


4 posted on 11/29/2004 6:00:35 PM PST by pissant
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: wagglebee
"France's biggest problem is their inability to accept their total irrelevance in world affairs."

When it comes down to it. Jock-strap Chirac's attitude towards the US goes hand in hand with france's increasing Muslim population. To Islam, we (the US) are the 'evil' that they use to can unite their people so they don't have to look at themselves for the root of their problems.

Exact same thing Jock-strap is doing.

5 posted on 11/29/2004 6:01:44 PM PST by libs_kma (USA: The land of the Free....Because of the Brave!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Podkayne

My guess is that the EU will make France the laughing-stock of Europe.


6 posted on 11/29/2004 6:01:48 PM PST by wagglebee (Memo to sKerry: the only thing Bush F'ed up was your career)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: wagglebee
Let's load the Statue of Liberty on a barge with a sign 'Shove It Up your French Butthole'. Drop it at the foot of the Eiffel Tower!

Ungrateful bastards!!
7 posted on 11/29/2004 6:02:38 PM PST by snapperjk (If you are a terror to many, then beware of many.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: wagglebee

I hate Chirac. French politicians are amongst the most treacherous on the planet.


8 posted on 11/29/2004 6:02:40 PM PST by Trippin
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: snapperjk

LOL!


9 posted on 11/29/2004 6:03:27 PM PST by wagglebee (Memo to sKerry: the only thing Bush F'ed up was your career)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: wagglebee
French hostility a chronic problem

French a chronic problem

10 posted on 11/29/2004 6:04:30 PM PST by Paul Atreides
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: snapperjk

11 posted on 11/29/2004 6:04:59 PM PST by wagglebee (Memo to sKerry: the only thing Bush F'ed up was your career)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: wagglebee

"One French intellectual described anti-Americanism to me as 'a cancer that is sweeping across the country.'"

Really? Well, France better hope the cure won't be a nuclear shot to the country's hateful & envious brain.


12 posted on 11/29/2004 6:05:18 PM PST by Pittsburg Phil
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: wagglebee

didja hear the joke about the old u.s. military veteran who visited paris, and was stopped by security at the airport?

"you americains should know now, monsieur, that you are required to show your passports when you enter france."

the old vet replies: "the last time i was in france i landed at omaha beach and there weren't any frenchmen around!"


13 posted on 11/29/2004 6:06:58 PM PST by ken21 (against the democrat plantation.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: wagglebee

If only.


14 posted on 11/29/2004 6:08:30 PM PST by Podkayne
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: wagglebee

Chirac is playing a smoke and mirrors game. He can't afford to have the attention focused on himself so he points and screams as a distraction.


15 posted on 11/29/2004 6:08:40 PM PST by cripplecreek (I come swinging the olive branch of peace.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: wagglebee; marron

"detested by the Left and considered an apostate on the Right, but may survive by bashing Uncle Sam."

A successful strategy proven by Gerhard Schroeder in his last election.

"That war was described as a plot by American capitalists to cheat Iraqis out of their oil in a lecture that would have done justice to a conspiracy-minded Internet blogger."

When is Bush going to let free all the info on France and Food for Oil, and their pre-war "diplomacy" against us? He kept it quiet before letting Kerry's francophilism score points.


16 posted on 11/29/2004 6:10:17 PM PST by Shermy
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: wagglebee
Let's load the Statue of Liberty on a barge with a sign 'Shove It Up your French Butthole'. Drop it at the foot of the Eiffel Tower! ..And I'm sure our Canadian friends to the north would help us load it, in turn for some cargo containers to box up the French scum in 'Cuc Caa P. of Q. to ship along with it.
17 posted on 11/29/2004 6:10:33 PM PST by snapperjk (If you are a terror to many, then beware of many.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: wagglebee
The lone potential breath of fresh air viewed by internal critics is flamboyant populist Nicolas Sarkozy, who is resigning as finance minister to seek leadership of France's governing party and then perhaps run for president. Although Sarkozy is unabashedly pro-American, it has not hurt him so far. But his opponent is likely to be Chirac, still waving the bloody American shirt and still hard to beat.

Seems like 2007 is the year that we get rid of Chirac and replace him with Sarkozy .. best way to do that is to ramp up the boycott.

18 posted on 11/29/2004 6:10:50 PM PST by AgThorn (Go go Bush!! But don't turn your back on America with "immigrant amnesty")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: ken21

This hallowed ground, above the beach at Normandy is the only land in France we should ever worry about again.

19 posted on 11/29/2004 6:11:23 PM PST by wagglebee (Memo to sKerry: the only thing Bush F'ed up was your career)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies]

To: wagglebee

Triple LMAO ROTF !!!! Funny!!!!. Funny!!!!


20 posted on 11/29/2004 6:12:02 PM PST by snapperjk (If you are a terror to many, then beware of many.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-4041-55 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson