[blam]

GGG Ping.

[investigateworld]

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[livius]

Puhleeze. The Templars were initially a very good, completely orthodox order. Some of them - not all, by any means - seem to have started dabbling in things ranging from the occult to homosexuality. It's unfortunate that the whole order had to be suppressed, but many orders have been suppressed in the life of the Church, some for heterodoxy and some simply because they had outlived their usefulness. With the Templars, it was a bit of both.

In any case, the Templars gave rise to a whole Masonic wing and to lots of New Age books, so why should their self-proclaimed heirs complain? Nowadays, the Templars are more popular than orthodox Catholicism.

[marblehead17]

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[RikaStrom]

Templar ping

[HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity]

Church article ping.

[AMDG&BVMH]

The article, however, does not say they are asking for an apology for the disbanding of the order due to heresy, but “for the torture and murder of our leadership” . . .

In any case: Praise is due to the early Crusader Templars. PC or not. ;)

[bigbob]

"settled in France"....Dang....

[torqemada]

700 YEARS! Get over it, already...and get a real life - preferably not one that requires KKK costumes.

[wideawake]

A Templar Order in Britain that claims to be descended from the original Knights Templar has asked that the Pope should make the apology.

LOL!

There are no Templars.

These whack-jobs are just playing dress-up.

[Albion Wilde]

"...The Knights Templar were founded by Hugh de Payens, a French knight from the Champagne area of Burgundy ..."


This is hugh! The Knights were getting stuned on champagne and burgundy...

[Campion]

Since the Papacy in 1307 was pretty much owned lock, stock, and barrel by King Phillip of France, and the suppression of the Templars was his idea, shouldn't they be asking the French government for an apology?

[Fiddlstix]

BTTT

[Continental Soldier]

"Holy Blood, Holy Grail" did not claim that Jesus survived the cross. It suggested that Mary Magdeline, pregnant with Jesus' child, emmigrated to southeastern France and settled there. The rise of the Cathars in that region lend some support to that notion, but, by no means, confirm it.

[Canticle_of_Deborah]

While most of the Templars were killed, some escaped to Switzerland where traces of their philosophy can be found today.

There are no Templars alive today so no apology is necessary.

[VOA]

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[Cinnamon Girl]

National Treasure was the first I'd heard of the Knights of the Templar. Why were they disbanded officially?

[wtc911]

The Templars, based in Hertford, are hoping for an apology by 2007.....

And a cute little Volvo for each of them.

[cake_crumb]

"However, Vatican insiders said that the Pope, 84, was under pressure from conservative cardinals to 'stop saying sorry' for the errors of the past, after a series of papal apologies for the Crusades, the Inquisition, Christian anti-Semitism and the persecution of scientists and 'heretics' such as Galileo."

Now is not the time to stop saying 'sorry'. The Knights Templar WERE wrongly persecuted and excoriated and they DO deserve an apology. What's suddenly so wrong with setting the record straight?

[NYer]

“The Papacy and the Kingdom of France conspired to destroy the Order for reasons which modern historians judge to be primarily political. Their methods and motives are now universally regarded as brutal, unfair and unjustified.

That was then ... this is now. Enough, already!

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