Posted on 11/28/2004 6:19:02 PM PST by LibWhacker
Edited on 11/28/2004 6:23:13 PM PST by Sidebar Moderator. [history]
Sounds like SS filth to me:
The violinist, Wissam Tayem, was on his way to a music lesson near Nablus when he said an Israeli officer ordered him to "play something sad" while soldiers made fun of him.
The violinist, Wissam Tayem, was on his way to a music lesson near Nablus when he said an Israeli officer ordered him to "play something sad" while soldiers made fun of him.
Good point made. I was wondering if the guards were looking for security info or just wanting to be entertained. I've been asked to turn on my phone to prove it wasn't a fake. I've been asked to take a sip from my coffee cup to prove that I was carrying a potable drink instead of some other liquid. I wish I could play the violin.
I am shocked too, that the the left leaning 'Guardian' does not run a joint 'news gathering' operation with Al-Jazeera relating to Israel issues. They can try out spinning each other.
They don't?
They made two mistakes. The second was making him play the violin, reasonable imo, but shouldn't laugh. The first
It may be that the soldiers wanted Mr Tayem to prove he was indeed a musician walking to a lesson because, as a man under 30, he would not normally have been permitted through the checkpoint.
hopefully won't be repeated.
I'm from Chicago, I know what a violin case is used for.
Yep!
Yep!
ping :)
bttt
A far wiser policy, perhaps, for Israel in the wake of Arafat's death, would have been a conscientious moratorium on anything as unseemly as the behavior described in the article. The far more disturbing thing was the killing of the 13 year old girl. As the Palestinians scramble for new
"leadership" you don't want to give them any reason to be obliged to pick a new Arafat. Interestingly, though, Arafat's death is not mentioned in this piece.
Oh, the torture and the taunting!
Doesn't even look like they are paying attention to the violin player! Geez, they just had to make sure he really was learning to play. It was the responsible thing to do.
But, I am upset by the other stories about the girl and the head on a pole. Not good. Not good.
You remember the Pali/AlJazeera story about two years ago where the machinegun shot the kid in front of his father up against a wall behind a balustrade?
If you go back and review the postings you will discover that I am the first Freeper to point out that when watching the film it was possible, by counting rounds, and watching what was happening, to determine that the firing came from BEHIND the photographer.
The IDF post was off to the right and actually out of sight of the shooting situation.
IDF was about ready to let those guys hang. Then stuff got rolling here, on FR, and with Congressional friends and next thing you know authoritative sources proved, without a doubt, that the IDF guys couldn't have shot that kid. A Pali did it, or an AlJazeera camera crew guy? We killed the propaganda value.
Now, again, why is IDF higher levels harrassing this guy?
Efendi, all things are possible in the Orient, of course.
Fair enough. They are harassing this guy because he is not politicaly correct. Israel is a like a liberal mafia. They jailed a kid for making his own tee shirt that said lo arabi, lo pigium or no arabs, no terrorism.
A bit politicaly incorrect, however correct in real life it may be, but jail?!
Sorry, I took you wrong. Blessings.
Somehow, I don't think we will think this incident is so funny when an Iraqi insurgent does the same thing to one of our boys.
If the Iraqi "insurgent" --- as, in apparent approval of the left-wing media, you kindly called him --- does not see the difference, that is his problem.
But why is it that YOU do not see the difference between a checkpoint in Israel and kidnappings in Iraq? These checkpoints have seen children with bomb-belts, ambulances loaded with rockets, UN-marked vehicles with explosives. They asked the guy to play the violin to prove he is a musician precisely because Arabs lie without shame and limit. So, they LAUGHED at the enemy --- since when it that a crime or even an immoral act.
Now, how is that even related to capturing a soldier an humiliating him before the beheading?
You seem to be a victim of moral relativism.
Not really: only insufficient violence begets violence.
When fundamentalist rose in Syria two decades ago, then-president Asad killed 11,000-14,000 people in under two weeks and turned the town where the insurgence occured into one large parking lot. There is no Islamist movement in Syria. None. Having withstood five wars aiming at annihilating Israel, which countries did Israel invade as escalation of violence? None. It invaded only Lebanon in 1982 in response to years of being shelled by Arabs. Just ask, how long would we tolerate bombings of Detroit from Canadian territory? So, where is begetting of violence by violence? I guess, you follow closely the left-wing press and absorb its wisdom.
As for Palestinians --- no, there are no Palestinian people, Mr. Conservative --- they are the only case in modern history of losers not being kicked out. Had Israelis liked them out into Jordan, everybody would've forgotten about this today.
There were Germans living in Western Poland before the WWII. They did not start WWII. Yet they were kicked out of Poland after the war --- merely for being German by blood. All 1.3 million of them. Is any one outraged? Was anyone outraged, ever? Have you even heard of this (until, perhaps, recently when they started to say they want to be compensated for loss of property)?
Now compare. Arabs did start the war against Israel. Palestinian Arabs actively supported the invaders and were URGED by them to leave homes because the war was supposed to be over in a matter of days (that's how they became refugees). What's the difference? If any, Israelis would be even more justified then Poles in the case of Germans.
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