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To: rpage3
In this place, violence begets violence,

Not really: only insufficient violence begets violence.

When fundamentalist rose in Syria two decades ago, then-president Asad killed 11,000-14,000 people in under two weeks and turned the town where the insurgence occured into one large parking lot. There is no Islamist movement in Syria. None. Having withstood five wars aiming at annihilating Israel, which countries did Israel invade as escalation of violence? None. It invaded only Lebanon in 1982 in response to years of being shelled by Arabs. Just ask, how long would we tolerate bombings of Detroit from Canadian territory? So, where is begetting of violence by violence? I guess, you follow closely the left-wing press and absorb its wisdom.

As for Palestinians --- no, there are no Palestinian people, Mr. Conservative --- they are the only case in modern history of losers not being kicked out. Had Israelis liked them out into Jordan, everybody would've forgotten about this today.

There were Germans living in Western Poland before the WWII. They did not start WWII. Yet they were kicked out of Poland after the war --- merely for being German by blood. All 1.3 million of them. Is any one outraged? Was anyone outraged, ever? Have you even heard of this (until, perhaps, recently when they started to say they want to be compensated for loss of property)?

Now compare. Arabs did start the war against Israel. Palestinian Arabs actively supported the invaders and were URGED by them to leave homes because the war was supposed to be over in a matter of days (that's how they became refugees). What's the difference? If any, Israelis would be even more justified then Poles in the case of Germans.

140 posted on 11/29/2004 3:51:45 PM PST by TopQuark
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To: TopQuark

I am not sure I get your point, are you advocating more violence in that region? Would you also maintain this, "only insufficient violence begets violence" if the side you are on turns out the loser?

I asked a hypothetical question in my original post the answer to which is obvious. What is also obvious is that there is a cycle of violence in this conflict. Do you have a practical solution to the problem or are you simply for the killing of however many Palestinians there are? You can deny all you want the existence of people who call themselves Palestinians - I don't know where that gets you especially since our government and the Israeli one claim they are for the creation of a "Palestinian" state.

As for me following the left-wing press, you haven't a clue as to what I follow and I give you, by way of example, my post # 15 in the following thread(note the date and time before you draw some asinine conclusion):

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1289087/posts

Good night!


141 posted on 11/29/2004 5:48:33 PM PST by rpage3
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