Posted on 11/28/2004 1:44:21 PM PST by woodb01
As posted half-way down the front page of www.NoDNC.com
To those who are concerned at
Focus On The Family and
Focus On The Family Action
Dear Concerned,
In spite of all the good that Focus On The Family has done in the area of family rescue, I believe you have missed seeing the major enemy: No-Fault Divorce.
It is true that divorce came as a result of feminism and hearts drawn away by self-centered, and selfish actions, but the major enemy, Easy Divorce, came as a result of uncontested changes in divorce laws in all 50 states.
All of us have done much to try to change the current anti-marriage, anti-family, anti-home, anti-male forces, but these efforts resemble someone trying to totally submerge an inflated inner tube. It cannot be done. It can never be done. Get it "down" in one area and it pops up in another one.
Until we completely stop no-fault divorce laws we are fighting a losing battle, much like someone fighting the wind with a tennis racket...plenty of holes for escape or free passage.
I truly hope that Focus On The Family Action will make this the first area of concern with relentless efforts exerted until this No.1 enemy of the family is totally destroyed.
I have called upon many "rights" and "family" organizations for their involvment, but all have responded with a definite "NO".
This is not a divorce issue, but a legal issue, defending the rights of American citizens guaranteed by our Constitution. These rights are: 1) due process - the right to hear the alleged claims of wrongdoing, with proof, defense, decision, and appeal; 2) equal protection under the law - the same legal "benefits" for both plaintiff and defendant, and 3) trial by jury of peers.
When divorce strikes, attorneys say there is nothing they can do to prevent it, but when you look at the constitutional rights, and the divorce procedures, there are endless actions that can be taken to prevent the illegal actions that go on in a civil divorce suit. Judges and attorneys can be confronted with legal actions about conducting business outside of constitutional law.
There is something seriously flawed (illegal) when the plaintiff in a divorce suit is granted a divorce EVERY TIME. Justice is NOT being served. This is NOT "justice for ALL".
A follow-up to this FORCED divorce procedure is "deadbeat Dads" being imprisoned without Due Process, Equal Protection, and Trial by Jury of Peers, over a CIVIL matter. That is illegality at its worst and MUST be ended. It harks back to pauper's prison...pay or go to jail.
We can all speak that we want to defend marriages and families, but if this issue is not addressed also, we are just fooling ourselves into believing that we really care about the rights of American citizens, and in particular, the ungodly treatment of our spiritual brothers. (75% of divorces are initiated by wives/Mothers)
All kinds of programs can be launched in support of marriages and families, but until we stop No-Fault Divorce our efforts to truly protect them are in vain.
I am reminded of a situation in the Bible where a giant named Goliath was doing his thing against the children of God without restraint, who were too afraid to be the eliminators. Then along comes little David, who had kept a good track record of what God had done in his life, and was certain that this giant should and could be slain - that the enemy should be dead.
Somewhere there is a "David" who has not yet heard about the situation with this giant No-Fault Divorce, but who will be more than willing to "step up to the plate" in the name of Almighty God, and put an end to his godless actions.
Is David a member of your "family"?
Please let me know how you agree or disagree with issues addressed in this letter.
Most concerned...and relentlessly active,
Billy Miller - Louisiana
brmiller (at) bellsouth (dot) net
Unfortunately, the PROPAGANDA doesn't line up with the TRUTH!! The TRUTH is the WOMEN initiate divorce, ~ 80% of the time FOR NO GOOD REASON!
You might want to do some REAL research before you keep on spouting the "evil male" feminist trash...
And don't take my word for it, simply read the RESEARCH THAT'S ALREADY BEEN DONE! Unless of course you have no intention of getting to the truth...
Congressional Testimony 1
http://waysandmeans.house.gov/legacy.asp?file=legacy/humres/107cong/6-28-01/record/chillegalfound.htm
Congressional Testimony 2
http://waysandmeans.house.gov/hearings.asp?formmode=view&id=954
And there's more, LOTS more... Care to read a few legal essays as well? Or what about more Congressional testimony? Better yet, HOW ABOUT THE FEMINISTS OWN DOCUMENTED WORDS, OUT OF THEIR OWN MOUTHS ABOUT DESTROYING MARRIAGE AND FAMILY!
And here's more:
Statement of Bill Wood, US House Testimony on Welfare Reform Reauthorization Proposals, H.R. 4090, April 11, 2002. 109 citations or references on the consequences of marriage instability in society, review of the attacks on marriage by radical factions of society, and exploration of the 1996 welfare reform bill’s requirements for strengthening families and marriage (http://waysandmeans.house.gov/legacy.asp?file=legacy/humres/107cong/4-11-02/records/billwood.htm)
US House Testimony on Teen Pregnancy prevention PRWORA, Public Law 104-193 (Hearing 107-48). November 15, 2001, 43 citations and references -- effects of fatherlessness and divorce on teen pregnancy. (http://waysandmeans.house.gov/legacy.asp?file=legacy/humres/107cong/11-15-01/Record/wmwood.htm)
"I know there are a lot of lousy dames in the world, but I think statistics clearly show there are more bad men than women."
Look at the prison statistics. Look around you in the world. Sorry, but it is true, for the most part violence, mayhem and destruction are caused by men.
And I'm NOT anti-woman, I'm ANTI-FEMINIST!! They've taken women down the most destructive path in the history of the Western World.
I have a wonderful wife and three daughters as well... I guess that makes me anti-woman...
See the redfem words right out of their own mouths>..
http://www.nodnc.com/modules.php?name=Content&pa=list_pages_categories&cid=2
The violence propaganda is ALSO THE SAME THING! PROPAGANDA!!
Fact is men are PROSECUTED for it more often, but the research shows otherwise... Oooops, another sacred propaganda cow dying... MMMMmmooooooo!!!!!
http://www.csulb.edu/~mfiebert/assault.htm
I didn't mean domestic assault, or whatever you'd want to call it, I meant all crimes.
It's a biologically determined fact of life, just handle it, ok?
Hey, that's amazing. I offered Congressional testimony on Gramsci and Feminism. Do you have a citation or reference for your outline listed above? I'm familiar with all of the contents, but yours is a great summary!
Okay, men evil and violent--, it part of biology, women victims, just repeat that until your brainwashing is complete!
What there is to get over is your denial of the vile, twisted, evil and despicable nature of the divorce system and feminism...
"What there is to get over is your denial of the vile, twisted, evil and despicable nature of the divorce system and feminism... "
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Don't hold back!
Come on, what's there to censor? Divorce and feminism are EVIL! Aren't they? Or do you agree with them?
What comments need to be censored?
I'm quite thankful that I didn't have to "duke" it out in court specifically because we have children. Our children still don't know why we got divorced.. the reason is unspeakable and I'd be horrified if they found out. I will go to my grave with the secret to spare them the shame. A quiet "no fault" divorce was the best way to protect them.
The problem is that married couples are told "God hates divorce" but are given few real solutions. Men aren't held accountable by the church for their problems, and women are asked to endure abusive behavior (while their husbands are educating their sons on how to treat their own wives, and their daughters on what to look for in a husband) because they are Christians and married.
I myself was told by my own brother who was also a pastor to "Get counseling" for myself when my husband had the problem. I told him it was too late for counseling and he replied, "Then you're the one with the problem." If you knew what I was dealing with you'd drop your jaw!
The Christian community is quick to tell you to stay married, but they don't offer solutions to victims of violence, spouses of alcoholics, drug abusers, homosexuals, etc. It's humiliating enough to be in that situation.. and "duking it out in court" would offer nothing more then even more humiliation. Give us some solutions we can work with!
I was told repeatedly to allow God to do a miracle. I waited 15 years...
You think people end their marriages because of Antonio Gramsci or something they read in a magazine or heard on a talk show ? You don't think maybe fundamental economic and technological change (like the stay at home wife being economically no longer necessary for men, in fact, a parasite) had something to do with it ?
Since the dawn of human history privileged men have had concubines, courtesans, mistresses, right of the first night, slave girls, geishas, wive's handmaidens, etc. Men who had the power to fool around always did.
Sexual variety has always been a perk of privilege for men, never for women. What the emergence of divorce did was to make sexual variety available for more men as they could cease having to support women they no longer wished to sleep with.
What does lust have to do with Gramsci ?
"What comments need to be censored?"
I wasn't censoring my comments about divorce or feminism, that's for sure.
Interestingly enough, Massachusetts, the state which I suspect has the high number of feminists (as a percentage of population), has the lowest divorce rate in the nation. The states with the highest divorce rate are the Bible Belt states. The degree to which a woman is a feminist has absolutely nothing to do with the likelhood that she will initiate divorce, or with divorce rates in general. There are other variables in play here, multiple numbers of them.
The horse has long escaped the barn. Stiffening divorce laws will simply result in even less marriages and more cohabitation.
First of all, you're working from the faulty premise that marriages can be saved if government will somehow act to keep a couple together. Barring that, even the premise that an unwilling partner in the marrage can be compelled to stay with the willing partner is severely flawed. You mentioned appeal. How exactly do you think that would pan out? You win an appeal and your wife can't leave you, so everything is hunky dorey? Sorry man, that's a fantasy.
Divorce may indeed be a problem plaguing our nation, but marriages cannot be held together by force. The solution lies elsewhere. I'm not sure where, but what I do know is that it takes two committed people, and you can't force anyone to be committed.
Interesting point. Wars always stir things up, too - like the WW I song went, "How you gonna keep 'em down on the farm / After they've seen Paree?" In some ways, conventional morality was also a casualty of WW II. Men came back from the war with a very different perspective on life than when they left.
The problem isn't with the legal system, or how divorce is handled legally. The problem is in how our culture has come to view marriage. It's not something that can be solved by force.
Nope, you're looking at it all wrong, all wrong. It's not divorce that needs fixing, it's marriage. It's not a matter of educating anyone on how bad no fault divorce is. It's a matter of building healthy marriages where people aren't seeking divorce. The two aren't even remotely similiar.
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