Posted on 11/28/2004 1:16:50 PM PST by AuntB
Hispanic Conservative: Illegal Immigration Bugs Us November 23, 2004
Listen to Rush Read the Monologue Transcribed Below... (audio)
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RUSH: Grand Rapids, Michigan, this is Jose. Welcome to the program, sir. I'm glad you waited.
CALLER: Thank you. Thank you very much. These are red state dittos. Rush, I could never understand during the campaign, and still don't, why some people believe that this is an issue for the Hispanic community. I've been working for the Hispanic community -- or with the Hispanic community -- for over 25 years, and I write a little column. I'm the only conservative token Hispanic writer around here, and I feel that is the least of the concern in the Hispanic community is immigration and --
RUSH: Wait, wait, wait a minute. Which is the least of the concerns?
CALLER: Illegal immigration or amnesty or any of those programs. Hispanics voted this time around on the issues that everybody else voted: Security, education, values, et cetera. I don't know, and have not talked to, any Hispanic leader or person who brings up the subject of illegal immigration except --
RUSH: Well --
CALLER: -- those organizations that are aligned with the Democratic Party.
RUSH: Well, that's what I was going to say. They certainly do, and a number of votes were peeled off from those groups this time around as you just mentioned. This is interesting because, you know, the conventional wisdom is that it was Bush's immigration position that softened opposition from the Hispanic community and sent them over to him, and you're making just the exact opposite point, that it had nothing to do with it at all. I would conclude from this then, Jose, that -- would you also say that the people you're talking about, Hispanic voters you're talking about, what is their opinion on this immigration bill and the whole concept anyway, now that they're here and they're citizens? What's their opinion of it? CALLER: Well, first of all, I would tell you that we have to be fair, as conservatives, as to how do we label this, whether it's amnesty or not. You know, I know that some people are upset about it and we really have to be very careful. This could go either way. Like I said, they are not very concerned about it. Actually, it is against the interests of Hispanics born in the United States, and even recent legal immigrants, to have to compete against illegal immigrants.
RUSH: Thank you.
CALLER: So they will not support illegal immigration. That doesn't make any sense. Secondly, the thing I have to say to Republicans is that they do not know the Hispanic community. This is not a racial issue. Hispanics do not consider themselves a race. Hispanics are white. They're black. They're mixed. They're of all races and social backgrounds.
RUSH: No, but it's their supporters on the left who try to make this a racial issue, and let me say, there's a genuine fear -- it's understandable fear from people on the right -- because in the past, the fastest way to have your career ruined and the fastest way to be marginalized was to have somebody call you a racist and have it stick. It tarred and feathered people and it's been a trick that the left has used for as long as I've been commentating about such things and they still try today, particularly on this issue, and that's why it's used.
CALLER: Well, at least you don't have to put up with being called a "Hispanic Uncle Tom" and be relegated to have to write on a free shopper newspaper because no media will employ you unless you are writing about Hispanic topics. Or even just look at your Fox network. Look at the major networks. There are no Hispanic pundits that are conservative. There are no Hispanic conservative writers in any major media, and so the 45% of people who actually step up and voted for Bush are not represented anywhere that I can think of.
RUSH: Hmm. Well, that's interesting and it's probably true. I think it's an interesting point of view, Jose. I'm glad you called. I appreciate your time on this. You know, it stands to reason. This just goes to show how easily we all fall for the conventional wisdom. "Ooooh Bush got 44% of the Hispanic vote! It must be because he has this position supporting whatever, the quasi-amnesty, whatever you want to call it, for illegals," and apparently it may not be true.
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"President Bush may get the majority Hispanic vote because his opponent is an absolute slimeball, not because he is doing the right thing, leaving our borders open."
I got my ass thrashed by Freepers for saying something very similar to that. Before the election was the time to tell the President how we felt about the issue, not afterwards when he is comfortably reseated.
So, if the President leaves the borders open or offers El Presidente Fox Greyhound buses to haul them in, now it is too late to for Freepers as a group to start complaining about the invasion of illegal immigrants.
You elected the man saying that he would change his policy after the election, well explain to me exactly why he should change it. He's re-elected now....... it's too damn late to expect the changes I screamed about for the past few years.
As the social and financial costs climb, you can explain to your children what you didn't do to stop it when you could have.
By the way I don't want to see one idiotic post about, "What if Kerry had got in." That is a childish answer to any debate. President Bush had the election before the election, we knew it, but that was the only time he would have listened to us about the subject.
You're a refreshing voice! I don't know where you're located, but when the Border Patrol started working inland to identify illegals the local tv channels in the Los Angeles area showed Mexican Americans claiming they were afraid to send their children to school or go to work because they were being harassed. The news also showed local Democrat politicians coming to their rescue and demanding the Border Patrol stay out of their regions.
The MECHA-types have selected Los Angeles as their capitol according to http://www.aztlan.net and they also selected John Kerry as best for their "cause". (see article endorsing Kerry for president: http://www.aztlan.net/the_election_and_aztlan.htm
How is that brick wall? Head getting sore yet?
He would have gotten another 15 million votes if he had closed the borders and deported even just 10,000 illegal aliens during the last three months of the campaign.
As you do CAWats with your condemnation of LULAC and MeCHA, they both bring great honor to Latino immigrants.
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Everyone is aware of the migrant invasion. The average person on the street (regardless of political persuasion) knows we are playing with a timebomb here.
Just before the election, I talked to one man who could care less what party the candidates were in nor what other positions they held. He was focused on one and only one issue facing America - namely illegal immigration and it's effect on our economy and social structure.
I quote him: "I'd vote for Mickey Mouse if I thought he could close the border with Mexico."
Nobody is naive enough to believe the government is doing even a fraction of what it could to reverse the invasion and most people you talk to will tell you it is being allowed to rage on for one reason: M-O-N-E-Y.
Bush can't stop it. I doubt anybody can.
The local tv channels have shown a number of touching stories of very new immigrants being memorialized by their families, friends, churches. Family members of some of our newest citizens saying their son/brother who gave his life for the country that gave him his freedom.
Following the election, one of the channels showed interviews of people leaving the voting booths. It gave me some real hope when a man named Gonzalez was asked who he voted for and why...he said George Bush, because he has a daughter in the war in Iraq and Bush is a good leader.
Laura, DO NOT spend the night in the White House if invited! Rush did and he has never been the same since.
I think the ones that could best stop the mass illegal immigration from Mexico are the true conservative Mexican Americans. If the local/state GOP would put some conservative Mexican Americans on the ballot, I think even some of the people who loyally vote Democrat might change their habit.
Here in liberal California, we need to do some major flushing of Democrats at the local/state level AND maybe putting diverse candidates on the GOP ticket would help.
I have some conservative friends in Arizona who say some contractors avoid hiring ANYONE who appears to be Mexican (legal or illegal) because they know documents can be forged. So, ultimately the ones who are here legally will suffer.
Good points - BTT
For about 10 years at least.
BTTT!!!!!!!
Hey, what am I chopped liver? ; )
And the other half of the equation is the hiring practices of private enterprise, who enjoy cheap labor at the expense of their fellow Americans. That needs to be dealt with on a state level as well. Good luck in FL, where Jeb! has managed to avoid this issue entirely, but maybe Arizona will come up with a bill soon.
All a Mexican, legal or illegal, has to do to get a family member over to see a sick relative is get a doctor to write a letter to the border agencies. We do not keep family members from visiting sick relatives and never have.
In my way of thinking, its either legal or illegal.....nuff said
The reason I said "legal and illegal" is that a great portion of the patients in the border hospitals are not American citizens.
"I got my ass thrashed by Freepers for saying something very similar to that. Before the election was the time to tell the President how we felt about the issue, not afterwards when he is comfortably reseated."
So did many of us, B4. In fact, I've never been banned from FR (yet?) and the only post I ever had pulled was from 2000, when I posted an item that Mexico was demanding we set up polling places in the USA for illegals to vote in Mexico's election.
Don't forget, congress has oversight to all this and passes law, and there are plenty of them we can work on. They have elections coming in 2006.
Congressional switchboard: 1-877-762-8762
"Hey, what am I chopped liver? ; )"
You are precious, that's what you are!
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