Posted on 11/28/2004 11:43:49 AM PST by ATOMIC_PUNK
A 13 percent increase of U.S. immigrants, more than 4 million, since 2000 included more than 2 million illegal aliens, who now total about 10 million or 30 percent of the immigrant population, the Washington-based Center for Immigration Studies (CIS), said in its report, based on as-yet-unpublished U.S. Census Bureau data.
The report said that while visa applicants from some parts of the world may have to wait longer for approval and a "tiny number of illegal aliens from selected countries" may have been detained, enforcement efforts did not constitute any major change in U.S. immigration policy.
The fact that immigration has remained so high, the report said, also showed that immigration totals are not tied to the nation's economy, as some immigration proponents and others have suggested. "The idea that immigration is a self-regulating process that rises and falls in close step with the economy is simply wrong," said Steven Camarota, CIS director of research and the report's author. "Today, the primary sending countries are so much poorer than the United States, even being unemployed in America is still sometimes better than staying in one's home country."
Mr. Camarota said the countries primarily represented among the nation's immigrant population are much poorer than the primary sending countries in the past. The United States' much higher standard of living, he said, exists even during recessions, noting that people come to the United States to join family, to avoid social or legal obligations, to take advantage of the United States' social services, and to enjoy greater personal and political freedom.
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"the fact that immigration has remained so high"
Let's call it what it is-- ILLEGAL aliens migrating to suck up the freebies here that their own country thinks we should give them.
Now that Bush has been reelected, I think he should revamp the entire immigration policy and put some serious effort at protecting the borders.
It is virtually impossible from a decent, hardworking person from Europe to immigrate here, but we are letting in various and sundry troublemakers. I remember some pre-Bush policy, which may or may not have been changed, which actually gave preferential status to terrorist sponsoring nations, such as Syria, we were allowing more people to immigrate from such places.
This about legal immigration -- which needs to be revamped.
I am in favor of Bush's guest worker program, that way, if we need workers, we can get them, and we are keeping track of them, etc.
THEN spend whatever is necessary to keep anyone crossing the borders illegally.
That's what I hope.
"CIS, FAIR, NumbersUSA, Project-USA and more than a half-dozen similar groups that Republicans have become disturbingly comfy with, were founded or funded (or both) by John Tanton, a retired doctor in Michigan.
In addition to trying to stop immigration to the U.S., appropriate population-control measures for Dr. Tanton and his network include promoting China's one-child policy, sterilizing Third World women and wider use of RU-486.
FAIR, where Mr. Krikorian once worked, is run by Dan Stein and shares advisers and personnel with CIS and other members of the Tanton nexus. As our Jason Riley noted in a March op-ed, "By Dr. Tanton's own reckoning, FAIR has received more than $1.5 million from the Pioneer Fund, a white-supremacist outfit devoted to racial purity through eugenics." "
The opening paragraph about says it all.
Three things need to happen that will help to solve America's illegal immigration problem. First, the feds have to make an honest effort at sealing the borders shut, once and for all. Second. There must be full enforcement of existing laws that punish employers for hiring illegals. And finally, the feds must end any and all government welfare funding to illegals.
President Bush`s immigration reform proposal is an effort in futility and will only exacerbate an already serious situation.
www.numbersusa.com has ready-made letters which you can fax for free to your representatives about various illegal immigration issues/bills.
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You have it backwards amigo.
FIRST, you make damned sure you put EVERY effort into sealing our borders BETWEEN legal crossings.
THEN, you can impliment some sort of cheesy guest worker program (amnesty).
If you do not do it in this order....do you REALLY think that scumbag employers who NOW hire illegals would hire the newly "legalized" workers? Of course not, they would continue to do what they've been doing, and hire MORE illegals.
And where did you learn so much about race-baiting, bay, from Jesse Jackson? At least you didn't start with the "it's good for the economy" BS. Do you consider JD Hayworth, Sensenbrenner, Michael Reagan, Laura Ingraham, Michelle Malkin and 47% of Hispanic Americans that voted for prop. 200 part of your white supremisist crowd?
"The fact that immigration has remained so high, the report said, also showed that immigration totals are not tied to the nation's economy, as some immigration proponents and others have suggested. "The idea that immigration is a self-regulating process that rises and falls in close step with the economy is simply wrong," said Steven Camarota, CIS director of research and the report's author. "Today, the primary sending countries are so much poorer than the United States, even being unemployed in America is still sometimes better than staying in one's home country."
You are right. OK. Let's seal the borders FIRST.
"CIS, FAIR, NumbersUSA, Project-USA and more than a half-dozen similar groups that Republicans have become disturbingly comfy with, were founded or funded (or both) by John Tanton, a retired doctor in Michigan.
In addition to trying to stop immigration to the U.S., appropriate population-control measures for Dr. Tanton and his network include promoting China's one-child policy, sterilizing Third World women and wider use of RU-486.
FAIR, where Mr. Krikorian once worked, is run by Dan Stein and shares advisers and personnel with CIS and other members of the Tanton nexus. As our Jason Riley noted in a March op-ed, "By Dr. Tanton's own reckoning, FAIR has received more than $1.5 million from the Pioneer Fund, a white-supremacist outfit devoted to racial purity through eugenics." "
Hey Mr. La Raza, aside from copying and pasting an old quote from the biased and agenda driven WSJ (which is notoriously pro-illegal immigration), do you have any unbiased sources that would undoubtedly show that the Pioneer Fund is a white supremacist group?
"Three things need to happen that will help to solve America's illegal immigration problem. First, the feds have to make an honest effort at sealing the borders shut, once and for all. Second. There must be full enforcement of existing laws that punish employers for hiring illegals. And finally, the feds must end any and all government welfare funding to illegals. "
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I agree with your points 1 & 3. But you can't expect to make every employer an INS cop. That is not reasonable, nor is it necessary. If they seal the borders and stop giving welfare to illegals, the problems will take care of themselves.
Any time I have gotten a job, they have asked to see my social security and driver's license. I would think that if someone doesn't have these, they should not be hired.
And Congress is doing.......
What?
BTTT
Do you know what's wrong with that statement? Do you agree with the author (and John Kerry) that our economy is in recession? You do understand that's what he's saying don't you?
A more accurate observation would be that the increasing immigrant labor force over the last four years has coincided with economic growth and reduced unemployment.
Have you ever heard the story about the goose that laid the golden egg?
He's a good example, but so were George Wallace and Pat Buchanan and noe Tancredo.
There is much room for reasonable people of good will to disagree on immigration issues. But there are also people who could not be described as reasonable or of good will.
These are often people whose insecurities and fears have been exploited by professional fundraisers and demagogue politicians and radio talk show hosts who try to make immigrants the scapegoat for all their problems and failures.
Mexicans are easy targets of hatred because the anti-immigrants think they can hide their dislike of all Hispanic immigrants by publicly saying that they only oppose the "illegal" ones, not all immigrants. The reason they oppose the "illegal" immigrants is only because they are "illegal". But their charade is quickly exposed when someone suggest that the solution is to make them legal.
You might want to take a look at post #38 from this thread for an example of how all of a person's fears and insecurities can become focused on immigrants.
Not just illegals either --- plenty of legals do just that ---- we need to revamp the immigration laws so that only the self-reliant can come and live here.
So the answer to over-breeding problems --- like you really do see in Mexico --- 12 year old beggars on every corner with their infants and another on the way --- is to bring them all in and have us support them? What happened to Mexico fixing it's own problems? Are you claiming they are so incapable of becoming a country or having self-rule, are not capable of reform so that American taxpayer are to just keep giving and giving and giving?
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